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    I’m not so sure this would be considered a conflict of interest.

    Don’t get me wrong; it’s egregious, but I don’t know if it actually is a COI.

    (Not a lawyer).

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    There were 24,849 homicides in 2022.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

    Almost none of them, if any, likely required a nationwide manhunt.

    Not one of them required an escort of 30 police officers plus a helicopter to the courtroom.

    As far as I can tell, none of them were charged with terrorism.

    And now he’s getting as biased a judge as he could possibly get.

    If we’re going to start charging murderers with terrorism, let’s start with the cops.

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    you people clearly don’t know what you are talking about. “conflict of interest” only happens if it conflicts the interests of billionaires

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    Say what you can about communism, but you clearly see that capitalism is so much worse.

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      Okay, move to Cuba or North Korea where they still try to pursue communism and where they still have not realized how broken system it is. You will surely enjoy life there :D

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        Cuba seems like a decent place to live tbh, especially given the circumstances that we’ve imposed on them.

        They have some of the best healthcare and doctors in the world.

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        You think North Korea’s godking is the accurate administration of communism…?

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      lol and I say this as someone who grew up in Soviet occupied eastern europe. Trust me, there are very few systems worse than communism, well at least, that version of it.

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        Free medicine is nice, though. Not very high quality sometimes, but still better, than bankruptcy after ambulance ride.

        Free high school education is a good option too.

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          Will you develop medicine for free? Will you do 8+ hour long surgeries for free? Will you teach children at school for free?

          Nothing is free, buddy. If sth appears to be free, it’s only because someone sponsors it.

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            Will you develop medicine for free?

            Medicine development is almost completely done in Universities with tax money, pharma company budgets are almost completely marketing. So yes, we already do that

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              It always seems to skirt people by that basically none of the early development is done out of the lust for knowledge and progress by private companies. They see promising work/studies and make it into mass market products that can proceed through clinical trials.

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            Yeah if I can’t get a yacht out of the deal why would I even bother trying to cure cancer? It makes no logical sense.

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      Communism lifted an illiterate nation of serfs into an industrial and atomic super power in, like, 50 years.

      Which is to say just as bad as capitalism but approximately four times faster.

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        Heard someone say that their grandparents who left the USSR during the collapse in the early 90’s told them something along the lines of “not everything the Soviet government promised us about communism was true, but everything they told us about capitalism is true.”

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        I don’t think any of the nations who call themselves “communists” can actually be considered communist. Hell, most of them are pretty much dictatorships, which is the farthest you can get from communism.

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          If were gonna start arguing semantics though, then what is pure capitalism? As even the US has limits on what capitalist shenanigans they draw the lines on. Ie policies like antitrust laws, which are explicitly to prevent monopolies, because while capitalism strive for monopolies, monopolies also usually kill the market so…

          The answer is obviously socialism when defined as the government owning or regulating the means of production, meaning just regulation is enough no need to own them.

          Communism doesn’t work yet because we can’t seem to plan resources use for large economies as efficiently as organic markets do it.

          But unregulated markets just destroy themselves, end up overexpensive enshittified adfests trying to push subpar products to you that won’t last you even the walk home.

          Capitalism is like the cancerous form of market economies.

          And communism has historically been about as healthy as the vegan diet of a nutritionally uninformed anemic teenager. Its not bad as an idea, but market economies just work better when they’re properly regulated.

          I’d definitely argue with you that countries like China aren’t actually communist.

          https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/capitalism-with-chinese-characteristics/CECD36DB2C3623DEE4670F7897BAA3CB

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        It was also responsible for the highly anti-intellectual culture that existed and still continues in said country today. So it swings both ways.

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          Anti-intellectual cultire fixated on higher education? I’m not saying that we don’t have collective mental disorders. Maybe during Stalin(see Doctors’ Case, cybernetics and genetics), but generally no.

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      Maybe this is a good thing? I’m not super familiar with american justice system but isn’t his case is mostly betting on jury acquitting or using jury nullification or at least taking him to strong settlement? Having a judge like this would definitely sway the jury in Luigi’s favor.

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    I knew they were going to try him in a kangaroo court, I just didn’t think they’d be this obvious about it.

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      The justice system probably assigned the judge randomly. It’s just finding a judge without wealth is impossible … which in and of itself is a problem.

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        what you expect from a country where judges in the highest court get bribed with “gifts” and “private” trips, while at the same time ignore “international laws” and threaten the most recognized court in the world. What you expect from a government and country that allow a rapist, felon, to be a president while enabling the killing of more than 30 000 kids and women (year old worst estimates).

        Such government will have no regards for it is own citizen and this is just the start of worse to come if people don’t step in.

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    Interesting, interesting, interesting, interesting.

    I need the bootlickers to show up and tell me it’s just coincidence.

    The whole damn thing is a show. They are terrified. The book they usually play by isn’t working. What will happen? The amount of support Luigi has is astounding. It’s even a topic I tested the waters with at work and these people I work with make a decent living.

    America is waking up. I feel it.

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      I genuinely think that they’ll have a hard time finding an impartial jury… I think that at this point, pretty much anyone who doesn’t live under a rock has heard of him and has an opinion on whether he should be found guilty.

      Regardless of which way you fall on that particular topic, you’re biased, and that would exclude you from serving on the jury.

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        I thought the same thing about the Trump trial, but they legitimately turned over rocks and found the most oblivious Americans living under them. There are evidently tons of people out there living in their own little bubble, completely untethered from the news media or even just casual conversations with strangers and probably have no idea who Luigi is right now. The news might not be able to reach them, but a jury summons from the state can, and the prosecution is going to hunt for these individuals specifically.

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          An unfavorable view is still bias. The defense would reject any juror that shows significant malice towards the plaintiff.

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            The defense can try to reject any juror that shows significant malice. Oftentimes both sides only have so many that they can strike from the potential juror pool unless the judge agrees there is enough bias to sway someone.

            …and since this entire thread started because the judge is married to a previous executive of a healthcare* company, well, good luck Luigi defense.

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        I’ve spoken with friends about this is Denmark, and we all read the news with great pleasure.

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        Correct. And I strongly suspect they are wildly pumping out news about him to narrow the juror pool to people who do live under rocks.

        The other option is that jurors lie about their bias, which opens them up for legal consequences.

        His defense, in any case, has a very difficult task - they need to be able to somehow communicate him being innocent against stacked charges OR paint him light that the rest of us see that leans them towards Jury Nullification.

        My hope is that potential jurors hide their bias, which isn’t easy, but gives him the best chance.

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          The other option is that jurors lie about their bias, which opens them up for legal consequences.

          That’s almost impossible to prove, and almost never prosecuted.

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            There are plenty of nevers and almost nevers with this case already, so it’s not unreasonable to worry that there might be more.

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            They’re trying to use fear to spin a story against this guy. They’re going to use fear when telling them about lying under oath.

            They’re going to use fear the whole way, it’s their only weapon.

            It’s why they are so afraid. A lot of us see through it, and see their real fear.

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          If they can find an “unbiased” jury, then the defense does indeed have a difficult challenge ahead. Even if the prosecution fails with their terrorism charge, they can fall back on murder 2, which is much harder to defend against.

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        That’s literally what it’s taken in the past. It took the fear of communism to really get unionization accepted in the US. In other eras it’s taken the threat of invasion by external powers.

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    Country wide outage at the corruption involved with the health insurance

    Health insurance industry: we can make it worse

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          It’s a pharmaceutical company. They’re no saints, but it’s disingenuous to compare them to people who take money and provide nothing but a rubber stamp.

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            people who take money and provide nothing but a rubber stamp

            They don’t even do that. Their incentive is to deny coverage. They’re not healthcare insurance companies, they’re healthcare rationing companies. And we pay them.

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            The providers (hospitals, clinics, labs, doctor practices), insurers/payers (whether for profit like United, nonprofit like most Blue Cross Blue Shields, or government like Medicare), and pharmaceutical/medical device companies fight each other the whole time to make the most money off of the patients/beneficiaries/taxpayers. Big Pharma runs up prices and persuades doctors to prescribe their treatments, while doctors themselves have a profit motive in running up unnecessary treatments, all while insurers try not to pay for stuff, necessary or not.

            It’s a broken system, but it’s also worth pointing out that the scammers in each camp hate the other camps just as much as the public does. There are hospital execs and pharma execs basically cheering on the anger at insurers, who will turn around and rip off the same victims in a different way.

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              Your final point I think is out of focus. The scammers, which is to say most people at upper level positions in these companies, they just don’t respect human life at all, and they’ll take money wherever they can get it. It’s not a matter of hating people. They don’t respect people to begin with, so they have no need to hate them.

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                The scammers, which is to say most people at upper level positions in these companies, they just don’t respect human life at all, and they’ll take money wherever they can get it.

                I think a lot of the profiteers in this space believe their positions are important and improve health outcomes, and that what’s good for the world is good for the company. Pfizer will tell their investors that inventing a life saving drug (e.g., a COVID vaccine) will be good for health, and that the shareholder therefore deserve to make a hefty profit from it.

                Same with the hospital execs. They’ll pat each other on the back about how much good their hospital does, and see the very expensive billing department as an important function in their war against insurers.

                And actual scammers, who bill for services not actually rendered, order unnecessary procedures, and prescribe the drugs the pretty rep is pushing, tend not to think they’re doing anything wrong or that they’re not hurting people.

                People in each of these groups are saying in hushed tones that the insurance companies had it coming, and kinda sorta cheering the death of the United guy with their caveats (“well I’m not saying murder is OK but I’m not shedding tears,” etc.).

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              Yes and thats because the solution isnt to put different people in charge of the companies. The solution is to Regulate.

              The corruption is because we voters built the system to enable corruption. None of us are better than the executives or vice versa

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                You are right about human nature and the need to regulate, but us voters didn’t build shit. Crony capitalism and regulatory capture built our healthcare “system.”

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                  In 2010 there were 58 Democrats and they held a vote for Single Payer healthcare. Every Republican voted no. One Independent voted yes. It needed 60.

                  So what did voters do after that? Elect LESS DEMOCRATS EVERY ELECTION.

                  If that isn’t choosing this system, I don’t know what is.

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            Did everyone forget about scumbag Martin Shkreli who raised medication prices for no reason other than he wanted more money?

            “In September 2015, Shkreli was widely criticized when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drug Daraprim and raised its price to insurance companies from $13.50 to $750.00 (USD) per pill.”

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              Martin worked at Retrophin and Turing Pharmaceuticals but mostly he was a hedge fund manager.

              Got nothing to do with Parker or Mangione.

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                Pfizer still got billions from the government and was allowed to patent Covid vaccines that we all fucking paid for.

                Also their dick pills are covered by insurance while meds my wife needs to make it through perimenopause aren’t.

                Pfuck them all. Drug companies are at least half the problem with US healthcare, look at what Perdue and the Sacklers did.

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                  Pfizer being allowed to patent Covid vaccines was a failure to govern, you should never have expected anything less than that from any company but rather you should expect more from your government.

                  Their pills being covered or not has nothing to do with the manufacturer. The entity who covers treatment made the decision.

                  Let’s make a hypothetical where all drug companies are as bad as Purdue, then we would have to get rid of them all. OH WAIT! Whats this? The Covid Vaccine never gets made? Nobody is working on the new H5N1 vaccine? Well, I guess we’ll just have to watch half of us die or be permanently disabled, lol. Organized medicine can’t be allowed, after all. /s