• stevedice@sh.itjust.works
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      Yes. You don’t get to redefine a word just because you don’t like it. Incel does and always did mean that.

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        Oh please. Using Wikipedia as a source while knowing entries are provided by individuals. Here’s all of Wiktionary’s definitions of the word:

        A member of an online subculture of people (mostly men) who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.

        (rare) An individual who is not sexually active despite having such a desire.

        (uncountable, seduction community, informal) “Involuntary celibacy”: the state of being not sexually active despite wishing to be.

        Incel is not a gendered word. Even females can be incels.

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            Clearly you’re the one who lacks reading skills if you didn’t see that 1). The involuntary celibacy project was started by a woman, and 2). It was initially meant for lonely people struggling to find love. Any other meaning attached to the term is a matter of stereotype.

            This is like saying feminism = misandrist because a lot of people that identify with the term hate men. Cmon man, do better.

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              Careful there, you’re gonna run out of straw. The woman who started the project also denounced it because it became a breeding ground for bitter, virgin men resentful of women that turned their anger into misogyny. You really don’t seem to know how language works. Grow up.

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                🤦

                You haven’t even disagreed with my point. Denouncing it doesn’t change the original intent of the incel movement. If you go back and read the definitions i provided, it is clear that women can be incels as well, so saying it’s a misogynistic group is oxymoronic. Like i said, it would be akin writing off feminism as misandrism because many feminists hate men.

                It’s about the origins of the term and not what it has come to be associated with.

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                  Women can be misogynistic, you absolute muppet. I don’t need to disagree with your point because you don’t have one, you just don’t understand how language works.

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                    you just don’t understand how language works.

                    Ironic considering my username. I guess we’ll agree to disagree 🤝