• bricklove@midwest.social
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        16 hours ago

        It’s an internet discussion, if I linked a bunch of scholarly articles, like the creator of the video did, no one would actually read them. It’s a quick introduction for anyone who is curious. Also, this topic has come up on /r/askhistorians several times and has been answered by some of the same scholars referenced in the video.

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          13 hours ago

          Everyone knows Jesus was not born on December 25th, and yeah, it was stolen. I can make a YouTube video too. 🙄

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            11 hours ago

            That doesn’t make it a stolen pagan holiday. Are you a professor of Roman art and Archeology like Steven Hijmans, one of the scholars cited in the video? The medium of presentation doesn’t make the information invalid.

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              It’s far from cut and dry, and there are multiple schools of thought and conflicting interpretations. Steven Hijmans is a revisionist. Traditionally, it’s indeed believed that it was originally a pagan holiday in celebration of Sol Invictus.

              Steven Hijmans presents an alternative interpretation of the various texts that challenges this understanding. He may or may not be correct, but nevertheless, one should not assume that his views reflect a consensus among historians.

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              11 hours ago

              No scholars have ever gotten it wrong, or argued for something in favor of what their beliefs are, despite it being a well documented topic.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Hehe. Naw, it’s widely accepted and documented. You can find this information easily.

                  If you try hard enough, you can find info on how the earth is flat… with sources.

                  So believe what you want. Idgaf

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                    10 hours ago

                    I honestly don’t care. Who gives a fuck if a holiday is stolen or not. It isn’t even about Christ anymore. It’s about Santa.

                    Also claiming stuff like that and refusing to provide sources and complaining about people who do, should just fuck off.