For the record I was posting in support of inclusive language, but pointing out that context and convention matter.

They seem to have even scrubbed my comment from their instance, lol.

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    I was once told my choice of defaulting to referring to people as they/them is offensive to nonbinary people. I don’t necessarily know your pronouns at that particular instance of time when speaking, and being offensive is not my intention, but it seems to happen anyway.

    Which is why I call they/them the equal oppurtunity offender. It doesn’t discriminate in its neutralness.

    Wait until they hear what non-binary sounds like in Spanish, a language that genders every noun as either male or female.

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      They/them is extremely practical and I’ve yet to meet a non-binary person in real life who complains about the umbrella usage of it. Some people just want to be offended or want to police behaviour. They should stay on twitter.

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      At least from one Non Binary, I default they/them and have no idea why I personally would find it offensive.

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        I usually get a lot of hate when I call it “binary thinking” to see only two extreme polar opposite sides to any issue. Some people don’t relate to that term outside of gender issues.

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      This is the most retarded shit about us on the left. We fight over every little thing while the right can unite over only one issue.

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      What the hell? I call everyone they these days as to not offend anyone, I’m trying to be inclusive with this.

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      Once it’s cheap enough, I will unironically just pay for Gemmini or something to monitor my comments and keep track of all the rules. I can’t possibly deal with all the nuances and expectations of every instance.

      If someone is still offended after that, idk what to say.

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        Nope, everything is either lo (masculine “the”) or la (feminine “the”), and there is no “the” which is gender neutral.

        Yeah, when saying things like “this” or “that” there is a neutral version used only and very explicitly for objects when you’re not using the actual noun for the object - i.e. in “give me that” but not in “give me that box” - but that’s about as close as the thing gets to having a neutral gender.

        Same with Portuguese, Italian, French and, as far as I know, all Romance languages out there.

        Funny bit is that whilst for most things the same thing tends to be have a noun which is masculine or feminine in all of those languages (at least the ones I know, so no idea about Romanian), some words might be masculine in one language and feminine in another or vice-versa.

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          That’s why some people push the Latinx crap. If you ever want to make a Hispanic person mad, call them Latinx.

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            While he ain’t wrong about neuter being limited usage I also had spanish speakers tell me latinx is idiotic but if you mist then “latine” is the proper term.

            Latinx is some shot cooked up in American universities and has been brute forced into general use but nobody appears to have asked the Spanish speaking latino people lol

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              But we’re OK with both, and we do use both occasionally. We even used the @ in the 90s-00s until it fell out of fashion as in Latin@.

              It’s usually only a problem when Americans discuss it amongst yourselves and start blaming each other about who did what, which then polarizes the conversation further for everyone else, especially other Latinos who wouldn’t have felt encroached otherwise. Because to us, in the vacuum of ignorance, it’s just another whimsy feature of the language.

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            That’s not quite true anymore. A lot of progressives have been adopting it and it’s quite common to see in Spanish lingo, especially in gay and feminist circles, whether tongue-in-cheek or otherwise because it is a viable way of writing incusivity in some way.

            Here’s a picture of a published book by one of my acquaintances who’s both feminist and queer: