• GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    I genuinely feel that until the left gets a charismatic vocal leader that a large percentage of people want to support nothing will happen on a large organized way. There will probably be more individuals that will show there frustration in violent ways but nothing that will really make a significant change to the path we are on. And actually the violence will just strengthen the right’s justification to crackdown more on “violent left” and depending on who the victims of this violence is against could drive more people to agree with them.

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      until the left gets a charismatic vocal leader

      So we’re still in a medieval swamp, then, because a sizable chunk of the population is yearning for a king-like figure of their own, with a magic political wand, they want to be mesmerized and inspired all day every day, it’s like magic!

      When what a society really chooses in an election is either boring government nerds performing the highly complex task of running a government; or conmen sucking society dry while stoking political theater with their red meat puppets on the propaganda front, to keep the people distracted, to whom an ignorant uneducated population is a huge political advantage.

      Then to clean up the ungodly mess the conmen leave behind is a monumental task, things are much quicker to get broken by looting than to get fixed and working properly again.

      I really, really thought the younger generation understood this difference, I really hoped that they knew better. Not anymore. They are just as dumb and lazy and self-centered as the boomers they hate.

      “You CAN get the inspiring political figure you wish for.”
      “Yeah? How?”
      “You have to nurture starting with local School Board and City Council elections on up, you have to vote for the type of candidate you want across the country, make it a ground swell.”
      “Aaargh BORING! bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe!”

      The dumb and lazy are easy to manipulate with negative propaganda, all you have to do is give them excuses to NOT do what they already didn’t want to drag their dumb and lazy asses out of the couch for already, anyway.

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        14 hours ago

        So we’re still in a medieval swamp

        We might be. But right now the left is just floundering in the political winds leaderless and it shows.

        • Obama was the last charismatic leader and many people were disappointed with his tenure.
        • Biden just disappeared after he got into office
        • Pelosi and Schumer are both are extremely weak when it comes to getting the voting base excited.

        Who else is there? Bernie? He is good, had the governance nerd about him and he could connect to a disillusioned base but he is old

        AOC? Maybe.

        I’m sure there are others that can do this and I agree with you that they need to be nurtured from local politics. I also believe that people on the left need to understand that no leader will be their type of perfect and be okay with that.