there is room for them having reasons not to get help
What? Why should there be reasons for that? They are traumatized and being antisocial like sending death threats.
and room for them to get help but not improve.
Yes, this how most therapy is. Once you are traumatized, that is it. You get to go though life traumatized. Therapy will help by reducing negative reactions, giving tools to deal with negative reactions in a way that doesn’t harm yourself or others. You have to do the work. You still have to deal with the consequences of your actions before and after therapy. There is no time limit except for the longer you do antisocial stuff, the longer you and others will need to deal with the consequences.
Where I draw a hard line is creating cultural excuses and encouragement for retaliation and instigation, which I believe you have done by saying it’s fine for women to intentionally instigate men to cause insult.
By “fine” I meant it is reasonable to do giving the circumstances.
What I can say for sure is that I strongly oppose politics that try to excuse harming groups just because they’re less harmed than other groups.
I think we should not excuse or encourage people intentionally harming other people.
These are fine statements, but historically doing nothing often make these problems worse. If you looks at the civil rights in the US, for example. If black people didn’t start causing a scene, they wouldn’t have made any progress. The long term outcomes of not doing anything in response to antisocial behavior is that you get walked over.
Rather, we should focus on creating uplifting spaces where people of all genders are brought together across divides to focus on common goals and interests. This helps humanize the other and reduce social tension.
If the professionals agree, sure, but this should be a government project. You don’t want traumatized men, women, or feminists building such a system, otherwise it will probably not turn out well.
What? Why should there be reasons for that? They are traumatized and being antisocial like sending death threats.
Yes, this how most therapy is. Once you are traumatized, that is it. You get to go though life traumatized. Therapy will help by reducing negative reactions, giving tools to deal with negative reactions in a way that doesn’t harm yourself or others. You have to do the work. You still have to deal with the consequences of your actions before and after therapy. There is no time limit except for the longer you do antisocial stuff, the longer you and others will need to deal with the consequences.
By “fine” I meant it is reasonable to do giving the circumstances.
These are fine statements, but historically doing nothing often make these problems worse. If you looks at the civil rights in the US, for example. If black people didn’t start causing a scene, they wouldn’t have made any progress. The long term outcomes of not doing anything in response to antisocial behavior is that you get walked over.
If the professionals agree, sure, but this should be a government project. You don’t want traumatized men, women, or feminists building such a system, otherwise it will probably not turn out well.