Here are some numbers to consider.
The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.
Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.
The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.
Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.
Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.
Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.
Who isn’t pulling their weight in this trading relationship?
This isn’t about illegal immigration and it isn’t about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.
This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.
Idiots who failed to understand the influence and power we got from all that. Maintaining power isn’t cheap, but not having it is far more expensive.
The alone part is the intention. The fact that we don’t have the industrial capacity to replace all those imports doesn’t seem to have been taken into account. It’s going to get ugly.
From a Canadian… I like American people. I don’t want anyone to suffer. It’s been hard enough.
I’m sad that this is happening. As they said on our news network - Canadian soldiers died in Afghanistan for the US, we harboured stranded Americans after 9/11, we helped to fight the fires in California, and many other things.
I don’t want to fight with our neighbours to the south. At the same time, this is incredibly disrespectful and offensive, especially since we’ve always had America’s back. We don’t believe for a second this is about fentanyl or immigration so the President can drop the bullshit on that.
I’m disappointed that America was so blind this election and voted for Trump. I’m incredulous that your elected representatives are so spineless and money-driven. I’m shocked that there’s not more public outrage related to Citizens United, Roe, and what’s just happened with the FBI.
The best outcomes for this as a Canadian are basically that we’re going to have to ramp up our own manufacturing, and that it damages the ambitions of our own little Canadian Trumpler.
As an American yeah that’s how this feels. Like y’all’re our sibling country. We ain’t quite the same but we watch your Letterkenny and Trailer Park Boys and we listen to your Rush and Barenaked Ladies. We slip up as 18 year olds to get a drink just like yall slip down to get something with less taxes. Hell I used to date a lady in Ontario. Im about to stay with a Canadian-American friend for a month or so when I move. Canada isn’t my enemy, it’s my neighbor. Now, some Canadians are my enemy, but that’s because my enemy was propagandizing in Canada too.
I used to dream of an American Union like Europe’s because of course we should have a bond like that with our northerly neighbor. I’m so mad at so much about Trump, and like I can see why he’s pissing off Denmark, they’re mostly allied to our better half. But Canada, Canada was our ride or die. When we did the right thing Canada joined us, but same for the wrong thing.
You don’t fuck with the Canucks
For what it’s worth, I’m not fighting you and they can’t fucking make me. I can’t stop anything by myself but I’ll lay down and die before I participate. Of course I don’t intend to just lay down and die, but if it’s that or join the cult, I know what I’m choosing.
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Oh it’s already happening here. I think we’re speaking the same language.
Just because we have advertising and campaign donation limits it doesn’t mean billionaires and foreign nations aren’t going to use propaganda online and otherwise to dupe low information voters.
It doesn’t mean our politicians aren’t open to bribes that kick into effect after they leave office such as corporate no-show jobs. I’m stink-eyeing Pierre and his ilk in particular here.
I’m not sure what we do to stop these things. Some ideas:
Stop using American social media to distribute official messaging. The federal government should not use X and should not recognize it as a legitimate platform, full stop. We should move to the fediverse.
No contracts and no business for Elon Musk or any of his companies in Canada. He can get the fuck out and stay out.
No contracts awarded for foreign-owned companies or Canadian companies whose ultimate parent is a US corporation. They’ll have to pass their business through a Canadian-owned contractor who will take a healthy cut. Nova Scotia might be doing this at the provincial level.
Remove tariffs from Chinese EVs or, alternatively the existing Asian manufacturers in Canada need to cut us a better deal. Chinese EVs are competitively priced. The traditional auto manufacturers are making it impossible to own a car for most regular people. Canadians are stuck in an endless cycle of leasing their vehicles and this should stop. I don’t like the prospect of not owning my car.
Americans who own property in Canada can pay more tax on that.
And we need to tax our 1%.
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Yeah, I was going to say that I’m pretty sure anybody paying attention knew that this was pro-isolationist.
I have said it, screamed it, written it down even…they do not make money when the economy is good. Look at their increases in wealth during the pandemic, they make the most money while you are struggling to pay for groceries. None of what is happening has anything to do with America or the American people, it is all first and foremost a cash grab.
Downvote me, tell me how I am wrong and I will sit here and laugh my lilly white peckerwood ass off while politicians on both sides and the uber-rich fleece this country for everything it has. Good luck out there, if the doomsayers are right it’s going to get real ugly real fast.
This is a pretty blatant transfer of wealth from the average American to private industry. Tariffs are paid by the consumer and these tariffs will bring in an additional $140 billion in government revenue this year. Meanwhile public services are being gutted and Trump has promised massive investments in AI, semiconductors etc.
It’s basically a shake down. Give us your money, you’re getting nothing in return for it, and we’re going to put it all into this speculative investment which may or may not succeed
This is Milton Friedman’s Economic Shock Treatment as used by the US CIA in South America, but on the US itself.
They’re done with US citizens, they’re here to strip mine it. They want to bring our quality of life down to match the rest of the world, not the other way around. Get ready to be burning electronics for precious metals.
it’s also a demonstration of why we been saying for so long “no one is free until everyone is free”
My dad been screaming that we Americans need to start working for income they get in China and that we need have same work culture. IE get rid of OSHA and regulations. He loves Trump and watchs OAN for his news. That and Tiktok.
Let me guess - is he retired?
Sort of he doesn’t have worry about money.
Ah. It’s interesting how people propose other people deal with little pay, long hours, and no safety precautions. Does he work under such circumstances himself, or just want that for others?
He doesn’t work. Just collecting large sums of money.
Yeah, that definitely tracks.
Sounds like your dad needs a reason to worry about money then.
Get ready to be burning electronics for precious metals.
They’ll probably replace that with a robot soon, but they’ll be doing it near the poorest/most non-white areas of the country…
I want US hegemony to evaporate. That is really the only way we come out of this. It gave the US decades of influence militarily and financially around the world. We showed everyone how hypocritical we are as a country. How little we actually do to improve the world despite constantly preaching that we do.
America in the movies vs america in real life.
I see this as an absolute win, maybe we’ll get to see other countries rise to a more powerful status as a check & balance
Maybe the American people need to feel this hurt so that we can all realign and go back to this being a class war, not a culture war.
Sever us from our ties to be plundered.
