Weird you use that logic to defend Trump and then reverse it to attack Biden. And if you don’t want to think about the reality of “why?” and just look at what is then it makes a lot of sense why you’re so manipulatable
Cool, so we are now at the ad hominem stage, fuck me for saying what actually happens. I judge what’s on the ground and I have an intimate knowledge of it from my coworkers and the background of what I do. I see less people at the clinic. I see people moving back. I see people checking out locations in the north they weren’t able to go to. I see liveua and all incidents disappearing. But apparently, it was better with Biden, when that wasn’t the case. When people were getting killed all the time. So yeah, I’m the manipulated one. Instead, the democrats were 100% for Gaza. Kamala went “I’m talking now” to then say “We’ll liberate Gaza”, bombed Tel Aviv, hanged Netanyahu off a tree and the ceasefire has been in effect for a year in a half now, with everyone singing “kumbayaa” together.
Jesus fuck dude. Right now the people got a respite and that is infinitely better than supporting an ongoing genocide. Till bullets start flying again, then we can talk again. I won’t support someone that let genocide happen. Back then, everyone said “there won’t be a ceasefire at all and every president, Kamala or Trump, will not let it happen” and yet there it is. And saying “oh Biden would totally get a ceasefire” is the manipulation - because he had the opportunity and didn’t. He had all the measures to pressure for it, but didn’t. So spare me your “ur manipulated lmaaaao” when you have a pattern of behavior on one side, and a year and some of inacton, and a ceasefire on the other.
When you are so thoroughly incapable of addressing an argument’s points,ad hominem is no longer a fallacy, you are in fact the problem.
I have an intimate knowledge of it from my coworkers and the background of what I do
Every bit as relevant as you being a dumb shit. Your experiences do not change the merit of your options thoughts, or lack there of. And no we do not credit trump for a ceasefire in his first week anymore than we credit a president for the economy in their first week because there’s is very obviously a lag and complexity in cause and effect. That it moronically reductive. So yes I will continue to point to how fucking stupid you are
Except for the tiny fact that Trumps envoys were there a month prior and the ceasefire is literally the exact same as it was in October, when dems were “in charge”. It’s obvious you don’t want to admit anything good about Trump so you revert to insults and disparaging other peoples’ experiences. I love it how my knowledge of what’s literally happening on the ground in Gaza is somehow completely invalid as if it is a personal anecdote. You are literally trying to gaslight me and tell me that Gaza with a ceasefire in force that is actually working is somehow worse off than it was with Biden in power when there were bullets flying. And then you call me “fucking stupid” because you know that you are in the wrong here. There is no arguing that democrats were pro Gaza. There is no arguing that there is a ceasefire that’s here thanks to Trump. And despite me hating the orange fuck, I can admit that. But you seem completely incapable of doing it, the cognitive dissonance just doesn’t let your hateful thoughts die down to admit that people right now are safer than they were previously.
So now you’re trying to say Trump gets credit for a ceasefire when he wasn’t even president and want to ignore completely that he has incentive to keep the genocide going and you think him having discussions with Israel in MAY is evidence he was ending it, not extending it? After which he says he wants to relocate them to neighboring countries and you want to give him credit? Holy fuck you are truly incomprehensibly stupid
A month ago isn’t “May” last time I checked, but okay. He said straight up, that he will be trying to get a ceasefire before he goes into office. He sent out envoys recently. The ceasefire deal is the exact same as it was in October, when it was rejected (and not rejected by Palestine).
I cannot spell it out more clearly. You judge by what he says ignoring that Biden said he himself is a zionist and the promises he made to his dad, both easily checkable things. You are ignoring dems refusing to let in Palestinian speakers during their conference. You are ignoring the silencing of pro Palestinian voices. As I said - so far there is a ceasefire in force, and it wasn’t Biden that got it.
I’m tired of saying the exact same thing. Insult me if it lets you sleep better at night. The reality doesn’t change with you refusing to admit that democrats are / were supporting genocide and the situation flipped the second they weren’t in power anymore.
Let’s hear about how meeting in July is ok. Shit sorry I forgot you didn’t give a shit about facts or having to think for a moment.
You judge by what he says ignoring that Biden said he himself is a zionist
Trump literally just said and then doubled down on removing Palestinians from Gaza.
The reality doesn’t change with you refusing to admit that democrats are / were supporting genocide
I literally never made this claim? I’ve never said Biden or Dems are good for Gaza, a huge portion of the party is guilty, but they are better than Trump. But when Trump says something worse, a literal call to restart genocide, you ignore it. I’m so done with you you fucking moron
You don’t even understand what “a month ago” means and you keep bringing up outdated articles. But whatever, have yourself a nice day, you don’t want to look at the facts yourself, you just want to be angry. You somehow still don’t get the fact that “nobody is shooting at me” is infinitely better than “we are sending thoughts and prayers but doing nothing to stop the genocide”. Then you go back to insults. But as I said - whatever helps you sleep at night. Doesn’t change the fact that it was Trump who got the ceasefire. Guess the “one issue voters” got what they actually wanted huh
Weird you use that logic to defend Trump and then reverse it to attack Biden. And if you don’t want to think about the reality of “why?” and just look at what is then it makes a lot of sense why you’re so manipulatable
Cool, so we are now at the ad hominem stage, fuck me for saying what actually happens. I judge what’s on the ground and I have an intimate knowledge of it from my coworkers and the background of what I do. I see less people at the clinic. I see people moving back. I see people checking out locations in the north they weren’t able to go to. I see liveua and all incidents disappearing. But apparently, it was better with Biden, when that wasn’t the case. When people were getting killed all the time. So yeah, I’m the manipulated one. Instead, the democrats were 100% for Gaza. Kamala went “I’m talking now” to then say “We’ll liberate Gaza”, bombed Tel Aviv, hanged Netanyahu off a tree and the ceasefire has been in effect for a year in a half now, with everyone singing “kumbayaa” together.
Jesus fuck dude. Right now the people got a respite and that is infinitely better than supporting an ongoing genocide. Till bullets start flying again, then we can talk again. I won’t support someone that let genocide happen. Back then, everyone said “there won’t be a ceasefire at all and every president, Kamala or Trump, will not let it happen” and yet there it is. And saying “oh Biden would totally get a ceasefire” is the manipulation - because he had the opportunity and didn’t. He had all the measures to pressure for it, but didn’t. So spare me your “ur manipulated lmaaaao” when you have a pattern of behavior on one side, and a year and some of inacton, and a ceasefire on the other.
When you are so thoroughly incapable of addressing an argument’s points,ad hominem is no longer a fallacy, you are in fact the problem.
Every bit as relevant as you being a dumb shit. Your experiences do not change the merit of your options thoughts, or lack there of. And no we do not credit trump for a ceasefire in his first week anymore than we credit a president for the economy in their first week because there’s is very obviously a lag and complexity in cause and effect. That it moronically reductive. So yes I will continue to point to how fucking stupid you are
Except for the tiny fact that Trumps envoys were there a month prior and the ceasefire is literally the exact same as it was in October, when dems were “in charge”. It’s obvious you don’t want to admit anything good about Trump so you revert to insults and disparaging other peoples’ experiences. I love it how my knowledge of what’s literally happening on the ground in Gaza is somehow completely invalid as if it is a personal anecdote. You are literally trying to gaslight me and tell me that Gaza with a ceasefire in force that is actually working is somehow worse off than it was with Biden in power when there were bullets flying. And then you call me “fucking stupid” because you know that you are in the wrong here. There is no arguing that democrats were pro Gaza. There is no arguing that there is a ceasefire that’s here thanks to Trump. And despite me hating the orange fuck, I can admit that. But you seem completely incapable of doing it, the cognitive dissonance just doesn’t let your hateful thoughts die down to admit that people right now are safer than they were previously.
So now you’re trying to say Trump gets credit for a ceasefire when he wasn’t even president and want to ignore completely that he has incentive to keep the genocide going and you think him having discussions with Israel in MAY is evidence he was ending it, not extending it? After which he says he wants to relocate them to neighboring countries and you want to give him credit? Holy fuck you are truly incomprehensibly stupid
A month ago isn’t “May” last time I checked, but okay. He said straight up, that he will be trying to get a ceasefire before he goes into office. He sent out envoys recently. The ceasefire deal is the exact same as it was in October, when it was rejected (and not rejected by Palestine).
I cannot spell it out more clearly. You judge by what he says ignoring that Biden said he himself is a zionist and the promises he made to his dad, both easily checkable things. You are ignoring dems refusing to let in Palestinian speakers during their conference. You are ignoring the silencing of pro Palestinian voices. As I said - so far there is a ceasefire in force, and it wasn’t Biden that got it.
I’m tired of saying the exact same thing. Insult me if it lets you sleep better at night. The reality doesn’t change with you refusing to admit that democrats are / were supporting genocide and the situation flipped the second they weren’t in power anymore.
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/10/netanyahu-trump-three-calls-gaza
Let’s hear about how meeting in July is ok. Shit sorry I forgot you didn’t give a shit about facts or having to think for a moment.
Trump literally just said and then doubled down on removing Palestinians from Gaza.
I literally never made this claim? I’ve never said Biden or Dems are good for Gaza, a huge portion of the party is guilty, but they are better than Trump. But when Trump says something worse, a literal call to restart genocide, you ignore it. I’m so done with you you fucking moron
You don’t even understand what “a month ago” means and you keep bringing up outdated articles. But whatever, have yourself a nice day, you don’t want to look at the facts yourself, you just want to be angry. You somehow still don’t get the fact that “nobody is shooting at me” is infinitely better than “we are sending thoughts and prayers but doing nothing to stop the genocide”. Then you go back to insults. But as I said - whatever helps you sleep at night. Doesn’t change the fact that it was Trump who got the ceasefire. Guess the “one issue voters” got what they actually wanted huh