So it’s okay to kill the child if it’s inside the womb, but not once it gets out?
You nailed it. It’s not a child when it’s inside the woman, so it’s not murder. Women get to decide what they do with their own body. I don’t know why that’s so goddamn difficult.
Give me your kidney. I need it to live so you have to.
No? I can’t force you to use your body to keep mine alive?
Then why do the same to women? Because we want to imagine some “responsibility” for “their actions”. And as soon as rape and coercion never happen we can have that conversation. Until then, let’s leave it to the ladies to decide what they do with their organs.
You say “would be alive tomorrow”, but that’s false. They do not, ever, abort something that is completely viable outside the womb. The process for aborting that late is basically induction, and when you do that, now you have a living baby that you can’t murder.
Read what the person who I replied to said. They said as long as the baby is in the womb, it’s ok to kill it. Hence, they believe it’s ok to kill a baby that would be born the next day. Unless I’m understanding something.
It’s the only morally justified position. There’s no arbitrary point in time when a person should lose control of their body and be forced to undergo a potentially life-risking event. It’s their body and you have no business telling them what they can do with it.
Who is pro-censorship? I haven’t seen that at all on here. In fact, the moderation tools are so bad a lot of hate gets left up until it gets reported a ton. Always with the pathetic victim complex.
You nailed it. It’s not a child when it’s inside the woman, so it’s not murder. Women get to decide what they do with their own body. I don’t know why that’s so goddamn difficult.
That’s quite an extreme position. Saying “my body, my choice to kill this thing that will be born tomorrow” is very weird.
Give me your kidney. I need it to live so you have to.
No? I can’t force you to use your body to keep mine alive?
Then why do the same to women? Because we want to imagine some “responsibility” for “their actions”. And as soon as rape and coercion never happen we can have that conversation. Until then, let’s leave it to the ladies to decide what they do with their organs.
You say “would be alive tomorrow”, but that’s false. They do not, ever, abort something that is completely viable outside the womb. The process for aborting that late is basically induction, and when you do that, now you have a living baby that you can’t murder.
Read what the person who I replied to said. They said as long as the baby is in the womb, it’s ok to kill it. Hence, they believe it’s ok to kill a baby that would be born the next day. Unless I’m understanding something.
It’s the only morally justified position. There’s no arbitrary point in time when a person should lose control of their body and be forced to undergo a potentially life-risking event. It’s their body and you have no business telling them what they can do with it.
Unfortunately, you’re on an ultra left site, so everything gets filtered through that lens.
Ultra left? Woo boy do you need to talk to more people. This place is center left at best. Plenty of capitalists wandering around.
I consider communism = good, corporations = bad, & pro-censorship to be pretty far left. If that isn’t, I’d love to know what is considered left here.
Who is pro-censorship? I haven’t seen that at all on here. In fact, the moderation tools are so bad a lot of hate gets left up until it gets reported a ton. Always with the pathetic victim complex.
Yep. And that’s like 30% of what I see on Lemmy. So to call it a far left site seems odd.
But I guess YMMV depending on what instance you’re on.