Dear lemmy, someone very close to my heart is starting to fall into conspiracy theories. It’s heartbreaking. Among other things, he has now told me that soy beans are not supposed to be consumed by human beings and is convinced that despite the literal centuries of human soy bean cultivation and consumption, we shouldn’t eat it or anything derived from it for this reason (ie tofu, soy sauce, etc…evidence that soy is present in other common foods doesn’t seem to register with him).

I don’t even know where he got this information from and can’t find a single source to back it up (even disingenuously). I’ve tried explaining to him that sure, in its original state it’s not edible, but undergoes processing (LIKE MANY OTHER FOODS) to become edible. And that this has gone on since at least the 11th century, so it’s not like Big Soy is trying to poison the little people.

He’s normally a very reasonable and intelligent person, and I don’t know how to reach him. I thought it might be helpful to show him where these myths have come from with hard data sources to prove it. He seems open to the possibility, so I don’t think he’s a lost cause yet!

Help?

  • Trigger2_2000@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    As a farmer who’s family has grown probably 2M+ bushes of soybeans since they became popular in the 70s. I can truly say that the worst part is spending night after night with little needles injecting the Republican poison into the fattest beans.

    /s - do I really need this here? Oh hell yeah!

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      9 months ago

      Yeah hating on soy beans is literally fascism. And probably transphobic as well somehow.

      I don’t get you guys anymore. I feel you are so disconnected in your far leftist bubble. Most people just shake their heads and you wonder why the far right is on the rise.

      And I literally just bought a big bag of soy…

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          9 months ago

          Ok so Europe’s far right is on the rise because everyone suddenly became a hardcore Nazi. It does not have to do with illegal mass immigration leading to enormous socioeconomic problems and the left and center parties ignoring this for decades because they are afraid being immediately labeled nazi

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            9 months ago

            illegal mass immigration leading to enormous socioeconomic problems

            Speaking from Germany, where are those enormous socioeconomic problems created by illegal mass immigration?

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              9 months ago

              Right there with the decades in which the left and center ignored this problem. Damm CDU and its woke agenda.

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    9 months ago

    So my relative tells me soy and its products contain a funghi candida, that will infect you and cause health issues.

    Supposedly there was a farmer who fed soy to chicken, who have died sooner and had white guts.

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      9 months ago

      This is really just an anecdote, and there could have been any number of things that the chicken digested that caused this issue. I need hard, replicable data, which in the absence of, and in abundance of the opposite, I’m forced to hold my stance that soy is harmless.

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        9 months ago

        Yes, I wasn’t able to find anything hard to confirm this. It’s just that crazy people will say anything regardless of the facts.