Exploding-heads.com is another instance on Lemmy where alt-right MAGA types tend to reside. Some people on this server want us to defederate from them immediately, some people want to save defederation as a last resort. They have 104 active users (more stats below).
It seems that exploding-heads has also experienced a recent botswarm invasion. This is obviously another point in favor of defederating them, assuming you are worried about botswarms, which is currently being discussed here.
My advice to you all is please try to discuss this in a civil manner, we need not allow them to create divisive conflict inside our communities. No matter how the vote turns out, you’re not going to be able to defederate from your fellow sh.itheads so be nice.
I’ve linked many of the previous discussions below so people who are out of the loop can get a general sense of the situation.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126 https://sh.itjust.works/post/410325
Lemmy.world just recently defederated them.
https://lemmy.world/post/747912
https://lemmy.world/post/577526
Although this could be considered a point in favor of defederation, it actually means even if we vote to remain federated, people have a great alternative in lemmy.world where they can still participate in our communities and simultaneously be protected from exploding-heads.
Ensuring diversity of servers is beneficial to the platform as a whole, but it is also not our responsibility to bear that burden.
TLDR, just wrap up any last points in this thread before we open the vote tomorrow. Please be civil.
EDIT: To clarify, this isn’t the official vote, this is the final discussion. The vote thread will be posted tomorrow and you will only be allowed to make a single comment saying Aye or Nay.
EDIT2: Vote thread is up, this thread is now locked. Very lively discussion thread sh.itheads. Please try to be more respectful next time.
I think conversations about defederating instances being the top conversation day after day is going to be a major hindrance to growth.
While many love the fedeverse and the idea, a significant amount of people just want easy to find communities they can engage with, and this non stop internal politics will drive people off them.
Make a set of rules, stick to them. It shouldn’t be a community vote or discussion every day.
That’s what we are doing. We have to make the rules first though, they don’t just pop into existence. We have to go through this process first. Once the vote is complete, that’ll be the end of it. Any other solution simply delays the problem for the future.
This way, whenever anyone asks “why are we defederated/still federated”, we can simply link this thread and the vote and that’s the end of the discussion. Fighting through the drama now so that future newcomers don’t have to deal with it.
Yeah reddit had that also in the past (e.g. The donald), it’s just an unfortunate necessity, to keep discussion civil and constructive in the future to also attract the right people…
If the discussion was a generic one but it seems fairly political and specific to instances now so I’m not sure I see a clear set of rules coming from these discussions
I’m pretty confident once we’re done with this, this will be the next big topic.
I gave my 2 cents already in this thread, but you all should have honored the previous vote. This discussion and vote should have been about re-federating them. He’s not wrong that this is redundant and tiring.