Exploding-heads.com is another instance on Lemmy where alt-right MAGA types tend to reside. Some people on this server want us to defederate from them immediately, some people want to save defederation as a last resort. They have 104 active users (more stats below).
It seems that exploding-heads has also experienced a recent botswarm invasion. This is obviously another point in favor of defederating them, assuming you are worried about botswarms, which is currently being discussed here.
My advice to you all is please try to discuss this in a civil manner, we need not allow them to create divisive conflict inside our communities. No matter how the vote turns out, you’re not going to be able to defederate from your fellow sh.itheads so be nice.
I’ve linked many of the previous discussions below so people who are out of the loop can get a general sense of the situation.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126 https://sh.itjust.works/post/410325
Lemmy.world just recently defederated them.
https://lemmy.world/post/747912
https://lemmy.world/post/577526
Although this could be considered a point in favor of defederation, it actually means even if we vote to remain federated, people have a great alternative in lemmy.world where they can still participate in our communities and simultaneously be protected from exploding-heads.
Ensuring diversity of servers is beneficial to the platform as a whole, but it is also not our responsibility to bear that burden.
TLDR, just wrap up any last points in this thread before we open the vote tomorrow. Please be civil.
EDIT: To clarify, this isn’t the official vote, this is the final discussion. The vote thread will be posted tomorrow and you will only be allowed to make a single comment saying Aye or Nay.
EDIT2: Vote thread is up, this thread is now locked. Very lively discussion thread sh.itheads. Please try to be more respectful next time.
Does posting a meme saying “Half of trans parents commit suicide. We’re halfway there!” count, for example? How violent does it need to be for your barometer?
It’s the difference between
“I’m glad that person died” and;
“I’m going to kill that person”
Both are hideous ideas but only one is actively dangerous and illegal.
Honest question, please don’t misconstrue this as condescending: have you ever read about stochastic terrorism?
Yes, generally in the context of a powerful person or media organization who can reach a massive group of people. The idea is that, if they can reach a large enough group of people then even incredibly rare events, like someone acting on their words, are possible.
The common historical example given is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest%3F
Exactly. So my point is, are we not increasing the likelihood of discrimination and potential violence by platforming hate speech, which gives it a wider audience? Does that not count as violence for you?
You make a good point.
Perhaps what we need is a yellow card for casual acceptance of violence.
I’m sure that many of us have had such thoughts cross our minds, or even quietly muttered it to ourselves when alone, but it’s important to recognise that once we’re in public or discussing issues as a group, we have a responsibility to remain level headed and consider how such thoughts could possibly prevent a more constructive solution from coming about