Sept. 30 (UPI) – Elon Musk is under fire after publicly backing a far-right political party in Germany, suggesting the current government should not be re-elected over its position on the current migrant crisis in Europe.

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    USA, Ukraine, Israel, Italy and certain NATO countries have been propping up far right culture across the world. Russia and China are just boogeymen for useful idiots to scream about.

    Far right factions in USA support Russia only because of the anti-LGBT social alignment, and not because Russia’s politics is far right. Russia is pretty much in alignment with socialist goals geopolitically and inside their country on the social axis (ban on Nazi elements).

        • “Nazi Winnie the Pooh banned in Russia”

          Yes, seems that they’re taking it very seriously and not just calling shit they don’t like “Nazi”. Considering this is the country that cheers on the Wagner-group, a neonazi extremist mercenary group led by open fascists and literally named after Hitler’s favourite composer (as stated by Wagner’s founder), I’m sure that they’re taking the fight against Nazism very seriously and won’t ever abuse it for propaganda reasons.

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            I am sure that your username is not a parody, and that you have taken things into account like:

            • “western expansion” of NATO and disregard for Russia’s national security
            • NATO breaking Warsaw Pact in 90s
            • US ex-VP Dick Cheney stating NATO’s goals are to balkanise Russia
            • how CIA implanted a colour revolution in the form of 2003 Orange protests in Ukraine
            • then in 2013 with Euromaidan CIA coup
            • the leaked Nuland-Pyatt call
            • the famous lecture by Chicago University’s John Mearsheimer
            • the murder of over 14,000 people in Donbass from 2014 upto 2022 start of conflict

            and so on.

            People like you are the same brainwormed zombies that scream “doing X thing means same, moral and intent do not matter”.

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      Italy and Ukraine are on the receiving side of the propping. Israel is a good mention but probably a lesser participant than the big three (the US does most of the dirty work for them).

      In addition to supporting culturally reactionary and discriminatory governments, the far right fawns over the totalitarian strong-man geopolitics.

      And as it is known, it’s convenient for Russia to build fascist-aligned support in their targets to have a casus belli for their internal audience. All while following fascist doctrines themselves

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        Ukraine literally has a far right Nazi government and far right Nazi troops. Zelensky worships and salutes historical Nazi people both in Ukraine and recently with Canada in UN. Italy elected a neofascist party in power. They are on the giver side, not receiver side.

        Russia’s goals are in line with USSR, which, if history serves me correctly, was the opposite of fascist. You are spreading an obvious agenda that flips history.

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            Can you describe these ways using a proper analysis with historical accuracy and taking into account things like NATO breaking Warsaw Pact in the 90s?

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                If you think Putin is an orthodox Christian fashie, wait till you meet Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau and most western governments’ heads that actually sleep in bed with church. Putin and Russia do not exactly work the way christofascist western totalitarian dictatorships, with a “neoliberal democracy” mask, do.

                Also, are you describing Russia, or USA? You know, latter country rapes children in ICE camps and repigments the skin of black people, and conducts hysterectomies on women en masse. Also Catholic priests with state power get to kiddy diddle children with no consequences. In Russia, that would end up in either a mob murder or a death sentence.

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                The fact that US has been committing atrocities on the global scale for at least a century is crucial context for evaluating behavior of other countries Nothing Russia has done even begins to compare to the behavior US regularly exhibits. Countries have to be held to the same moral standard, and until the west starts accounting for its own crimes it is in no position to play world police or judge other countries.

                Meanwhile, Chomsky is an accomplished political scientists with many published academic works on the subject. Dismissing hims as a linguistics professor shows profound lack of intellectual honesty on your part. And of course, nobody is asking you to take what he says as fact based on him saying it. The article makes a case that stands on its own merit, which you’d quickly realize if you bothered reading it.

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                    So you/re now admitting that you’re intentionally mischaracterizing Chomsky’s area of expertise then. Then you proceed to straw man about excusing something. What was said to you is that the west has to hold itself to the same moral standard that it aims to hold others to. Until people in the west can fix their own broken society they have no business running around judging others. It’s absolutely incredible that you can’t comprehend this.

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          And what was the path which made that possible in Ukraine and Italy? They didn’t fall to fascist populists while being a power which strengthens fascist populists globally. It’s hard to see what kind of 4D chess would make Ukraine create fascist minded separatists to be conquered and then fight them with neonazi militia.

          The USSR was quite aligned with their own take on fascism. That’s history.

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            And what was the path which made that possible in Ukraine and Italy? They didn’t fall to fascist populists

            Italy elected a neofascist girlboss as PM themselves.

            As for Ukraine, refer to the leaked call between Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt. You will know how democratic and sovereign USA wanted Ukraine to be.

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              I don’t think there’s any question if the USA is influencing Ukraine?

              I tried to say earlier that the neofascists and its support in Italy didn’t come from nowhere organically. And that support leads to gaining power through elections (I guess as opposed to a coup or whatever?) as nations with elections do

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            Unlike Zelensky, Putin has not banned all opposition political parties. Tells you who behaves like NSDAP in 2023. If you think Putin is an orthodox Christian fashie, wait till you meet Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau and most western governments’ heads that actually sleep in bed with church. Putin and Russia do not exactly work the way christofascist western totalitarian dictatorships, with a “neoliberal democracy” mask, do.