• Hyperreality@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    And that push in the right direction, should be to hold them to the same standard as other prospective members.

    The people of Ukraine deserve to live in a relatively uncorrupt, economically sound, prosperous democracy.

    We should help them meet those targets, but the targets need to be met.

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      From my personal experience, corruption decreases as prosperity increases, at least in some scenarios. A lot of people confuse the cause and the effect. They think prosperity increases as corruption decreases. But more often than not, corruption is just a side-effect of people trying to survive in a poor society.

      It’s harder to be charitable and by the book, when your quality of life sucks. Corruption was absolutely plummeting in Greece in the 2000s. Young people were hopeful and determined for a better future. Things like bribing doctors changed from being the norm to being a taboo. Then the economic collapse happened, troika fucked the economy even more by imposing insane austerity(unnecessary even according to the IMF, which was 1/3 of the troika), the failing society became failed, the brain drain was insane.

      Most of the brightest greek minds have left Greece. Greece has always been a majority leftist country. In the last elections, the right wing got 53% and 3 far right parties entered the parliament. Even if the economy somewhat bounces back(because troika is now willing to give infinite money to a conservative government), shit is fucked and will remain fucked. I just hope Greece doesnt become Hungary, because the system is already in place.

      PS Greek debt is as high as it has always been. Have you noticed how noone complains about it? Where are all those lovely dutch politicians now? I guess it isnt important anymore.