• afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If cancer were cured tomorrow people would still eventually die, just not from cancer. That doesn’t mean that cancer does not kill.

    Yes there are shit governments and oppressive societies that, on paper at least claim, to be secular. That doesn’t mean religions are blameless and not the source of immense human suffering.

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      1 year ago

      Well, exactly? Cancer is a sometimes fatal disease. But it is not the only way that people die. So someone looking at a fatal road traffic accident and cursing cancer for it is not saying anything profound or useful, they’re just very confused.

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Ok but I am pretty freaken sure if you listen to what the Iranian government has to say they are crystal clear about why they are doing this.

        I don’t grasp the mystery here but I have seen it since 2001. We keep saying “this isn’t Islam this isn’t religion” when the people doing this horrific stuff are clear that it is Islam and it is religion. The only one doubting the motivations, effectively calling them liars, are western apologists.

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          1 year ago

          That does not contradict anything I’ve said. And why are you singling out Islam when every single religion is used to justify awful things by people who just want to do awful things.

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            1 year ago

            Sorry did you not read my multiple screeds against other religions in this thread or did you just not care?

            Also fuck that logic. I am not an EEO ranting provider. I don’t have to make sure that every religion gets equal amount of time being yelled at. I hope you enjoyed your BBC documentary about how really peaceful Islam secretly is.

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              1 year ago

              Yeah, Lemmy is designed around topics, not people. I did not go and read every post in your history before responding. Sorry about that.

              I am not a fan of religion. But it is a social construct. It exists because people need to find ways to explain and bring order to the world around them. It attracts people who crave certainty and leaders who wish to dominate and control. You’re mistaking the symptom for the disease.