• ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org
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      If you block all of Meta just because they’re Meta, not only do you punish countless potential valued contributors who have done no wrong,

      Bullshit. There’s no “punishment” whatsoever. Those users are free to open accounts on fediverse servers at any time.

      you also embolden Meta to engage with the Fediverse in less legitimate, more underhanded ways.

      You mean like anointing a few heads of big instances as representatives of fedi and trying to get them to sign NDAs? Shit like that?

      Let’s focus on building affirmatively and consciously the community we want

      This is literally the point of pre-emptive blocking. Meta is an existential threat to the quality of this place, period point blank.

      People, individual people, built Fedi out of nothing. It’s our party, we quite like it, and we can pre-disinvite entities with an enormous track record of shitty behavior whenever we want.

      If you want to interact with such entities and the typical user that comes with, by all means, find servers that federate. It will drive a netsplit, and that sucks, but it’s also working as intended.

      I just hope SDF is on the right side of the split. Fuck Facebook and every single thing they stand for.

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      I would counter that Meta has used their “tool” to in essence to support a genocide and that makes them untrustworthy.

      As for having open standards with no gatekeepers… that point is a false equivalency. We have open standard like encryption, but that doesn’t mean one should go post their private ssh keys online. There are bad actors in this world and Meta Inc is one of them.

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          Meta is not a person and Meta as a corporation (and the people who run it) are complicit in war crimes.

          As for their users (which I am not conflating with Meta, the corporate entity), there is nothing stopping them from creating a Lemmy account.

          Again, Meta is not a person and Meta is not it’s users. There is nothing wrong with many of the people who use Meta products.

          Edited: I apologize, I removed part of the comment that was on retrospect, uncalled for.

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      This feels a little bit like a “corporations are people” spin, intended or not. But I don’t think that’s benefited society all that much, in past.

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          are people and don’t deserve to be presumed guilty of Crimes Against The Fediverse for exploring it with any particular tool.

          If they would like to explore, they are free to use any of the many tools not built by a shitty company with shitty intentions and many, many, many shitty users.