A joint venture between Swiss company Climeworks and Kenya-based Great Carbon Valley has been billed as a springboard for creating a new, green economy in Africa.
That’s what everybody said about solar / renewables
I don’t think that’s true, can you back up your claim?
we’re going to need the technology
I support research and development of the technology, because it’s something which could be useful in the future. But this article is about building carbon capture facilities today, which is a big waste of money.
I don’t think that’s true, can you back up your claim?
It’s survived till today as a conservative talking point. How solar can’t pay off its own manufacturing costs, etc etc. None of it’s true, but that’s where it started.
I support research and development of the technology, because it’s something which could be useful in the future. But this article is about building carbon capture facilities today, which is a big waste of money.
R&D does not happen solely in the lab. At some point, you need concrete, full scale examples to work with on ironing out the kinks and figuring out where theory doesn’t apply in reality.
We’re not building a thousand of these plants. This is the early PoC example that we need to progress the technology.
Sure, I’m happy to support building large scale experimental establishments to test the theories, but that’s not what this is at all. This is a commercial installation in Africa, of all places. Why would the European research teams build a research facility so far away? That doesn’t make sense.
It’s not the first of its kind though. It’s just the first in Africa. There are already a bunch of these in Europe and America.
If the researchers are in Europe then it doesn’t work for the plant to be in Africa. I don’t know why you’re arguing such an obviously wrong position lol
Yeah scratch the first of its kind, wasn’t thinking when I wrote that. Nevertheless, my point stands. For the technology to grow and develop we need PoCs to be constructed. Valuable data can be obtained from operating the PoCs that we wouldn’t otherwise get.
If the researchers are in Europe then it doesn’t work for the plant to be in Africa.
In this age where everything is networked and teams can be distributed worldwide, what in the world does it matter if the plant is in Africa? If anything, it would be encouraging knowledge transfer and dissemination.
I don’t know why you’re arguing such an obviously wrong position lol
In most online discussions, that’s exactly how the other person feels about you. We generally keep it civil by not saying it out loud, though.
More than 10 years ago solar and wind were talked about very diffrently. They required subsidies to operate and weren’t cost effective. We nursed the new technology to commertial viability and everyone forgot about that part
I don’t think that’s true, can you back up your claim?
I support research and development of the technology, because it’s something which could be useful in the future. But this article is about building carbon capture facilities today, which is a big waste of money.
It’s survived till today as a conservative talking point. How solar can’t pay off its own manufacturing costs, etc etc. None of it’s true, but that’s where it started.
R&D does not happen solely in the lab. At some point, you need concrete, full scale examples to work with on ironing out the kinks and figuring out where theory doesn’t apply in reality.
We’re not building a thousand of these plants. This is the early PoC example that we need to progress the technology.
Sure, I’m happy to support building large scale experimental establishments to test the theories, but that’s not what this is at all. This is a commercial installation in Africa, of all places. Why would the European research teams build a research facility so far away? That doesn’t make sense.
What’s the difference between a large scale experimental establishment, and a first of its kind commercial experimental establishment?
As for location, presumably cheap land, power, lack of NIMBYs. Maybe tax incentives.
It’s not the first of its kind though. It’s just the first in Africa. There are already a bunch of these in Europe and America.
If the researchers are in Europe then it doesn’t work for the plant to be in Africa. I don’t know why you’re arguing such an obviously wrong position lol
Yeah scratch the first of its kind, wasn’t thinking when I wrote that. Nevertheless, my point stands. For the technology to grow and develop we need PoCs to be constructed. Valuable data can be obtained from operating the PoCs that we wouldn’t otherwise get.
In this age where everything is networked and teams can be distributed worldwide, what in the world does it matter if the plant is in Africa? If anything, it would be encouraging knowledge transfer and dissemination.
In most online discussions, that’s exactly how the other person feels about you. We generally keep it civil by not saying it out loud, though.
More than 10 years ago solar and wind were talked about very diffrently. They required subsidies to operate and weren’t cost effective. We nursed the new technology to commertial viability and everyone forgot about that part