This gave me a good chuckle. Lol. But I’m part of the problem. The only “new Trek” that I look forward to and enjoy anymore is LD and SNW, but I still think it’s absurd to pull Prodigy from Paramount+ when they have all other Trek.
I wasn’t especially a fan of Prodigy, but I know people who were. And, let’s be honest, it’s still better than Disco or Picard.
I’m right there with you, except that I can’t even bring myself to watch DIS or PIC. As soon as it became clear how much those shows were being produced like the movies I lost interest. It’s not what I want from Trek. And I subsequently waited a good while to check out LD, but that was a mistake. I absolutely love it. It’s the perfect combination of classic Trek optimism, loveable characters, and comedy. And they honestly even get fan-service right, which I didn’t think was possible (though it does make sense that it would be in a semi-parody).
Ughh I am getting so tired of Discovery haters acting like their biased opinion reflects a broader consensus on the show. Discovery is flawed but great and did an amazing job of bringing star trek to life again.
Now that I think about it, what makes the fan service work on LD is that they don’t try to cloak it in some sort of wink and nod bullshit. Like Sulu in ST 2009 with the sword. Again, some of that is the prerogative of a comedy.
As with all things Trek, SNW has its detractors and its promoters, but I find it highly enjoyable. It isn’t quite classic Trek—and it isn’t perfect—but it’s just so much fun. It’s the first live action show where the love for the universe shines through the bleak empty promotional garbage.
I’ve loved the character development. There have been episodes that changed my mind about certain people, gave me real horror vibes that could rival Alien itself, and some heartbreaking moments. Just don’t expect Kirk to feel like Kirk yet. He’s still developing, and so is the actor, but it shows promise.
To weigh in on this too: I have a friend who only likes The Original Series; he grew up with it in the 70s. He doesn’t like the “new” Star Trek – new for him means any Star Trek produced after 1969. I’ve tried to get him into TNG and DS9 (DS9 being my favourite Trek) but it didn’t really work. I think it’s too “stiff” and formalistic for him. (which indeed it is, compared to TOS)
Last year I invited him to watch the first two episodes of Strange New Worlds and he was instantly hooked. He said “show me more”. Since then we watch SNW together. We both agree that it feels like TOS: it’s episodic, it has a lot of heart, it has something to say and occassionally it doesn’t shy away from using a sledgehemmer to bring the message across, and most importantly it doesn’t take itself too seriously all the time. It’s fun, it’s entertaining, and occasionally it’s thought-provoking. A wonderful mix, like TOS. Just with a bigger budget. Oh, and some incredible actors. Whoever casted the main cast is a genius; all of them are super talented.
Honestly, I would put SNW s1e4 up for one of the best examples of space combat put to screen, ever.
Imo, space combat works the best when it’s either a fighter-jet situation (e.g. BSG, much of Star Wars) or “submarines, but in space” (e.g. The Wrath of Khan). This episode is the latter. And it is VERY good, for that and various other reasons.
This gave me a good chuckle. Lol. But I’m part of the problem. The only “new Trek” that I look forward to and enjoy anymore is LD and SNW, but I still think it’s absurd to pull Prodigy from Paramount+ when they have all other Trek.
I wasn’t especially a fan of Prodigy, but I know people who were. And, let’s be honest, it’s still better than Disco or Picard.
Thanks lol. Yeah I really tried to like Picard but it was just too difficult, especially with the third season.
I’m looking forward to the new Lower Decks and I still have to check out SNW but that’s been renewed. Unless they kill it the same way as Prodigy…
I’m right there with you, except that I can’t even bring myself to watch DIS or PIC. As soon as it became clear how much those shows were being produced like the movies I lost interest. It’s not what I want from Trek. And I subsequently waited a good while to check out LD, but that was a mistake. I absolutely love it. It’s the perfect combination of classic Trek optimism, loveable characters, and comedy. And they honestly even get fan-service right, which I didn’t think was possible (though it does make sense that it would be in a semi-parody).
I enjoyed Discovery for being a new take on Trek and just really going for it. It wasn’t perfect but I had fun watching it.
LD is so good though and feels like someone who really likes Trek wrote it, you’re right they got the fan service well balanced
Ughh I am getting so tired of Discovery haters acting like their biased opinion reflects a broader consensus on the show. Discovery is flawed but great and did an amazing job of bringing star trek to life again.
Now that I think about it, what makes the fan service work on LD is that they don’t try to cloak it in some sort of wink and nod bullshit. Like Sulu in ST 2009 with the sword. Again, some of that is the prerogative of a comedy.
As with all things Trek, SNW has its detractors and its promoters, but I find it highly enjoyable. It isn’t quite classic Trek—and it isn’t perfect—but it’s just so much fun. It’s the first live action show where the love for the universe shines through the bleak empty promotional garbage.
I’ve loved the character development. There have been episodes that changed my mind about certain people, gave me real horror vibes that could rival Alien itself, and some heartbreaking moments. Just don’t expect Kirk to feel like Kirk yet. He’s still developing, and so is the actor, but it shows promise.
Great! I’m going to give it a go once I’ve finished the current series I’m on, you make it sound brilliant
To weigh in on this too: I have a friend who only likes The Original Series; he grew up with it in the 70s. He doesn’t like the “new” Star Trek – new for him means any Star Trek produced after 1969. I’ve tried to get him into TNG and DS9 (DS9 being my favourite Trek) but it didn’t really work. I think it’s too “stiff” and formalistic for him. (which indeed it is, compared to TOS)
Last year I invited him to watch the first two episodes of Strange New Worlds and he was instantly hooked. He said “show me more”. Since then we watch SNW together. We both agree that it feels like TOS: it’s episodic, it has a lot of heart, it has something to say and occassionally it doesn’t shy away from using a sledgehemmer to bring the message across, and most importantly it doesn’t take itself too seriously all the time. It’s fun, it’s entertaining, and occasionally it’s thought-provoking. A wonderful mix, like TOS. Just with a bigger budget. Oh, and some incredible actors. Whoever casted the main cast is a genius; all of them are super talented.
Watching it now and really enjoying it! Surprisingly good cast!
Glad you’ve decided to try it. Enjoy! 🖖
Hrmm that is a really interesting perspective I hadn’t considered before. Ty!
Honestly, I would put SNW s1e4 up for one of the best examples of space combat put to screen, ever.
Imo, space combat works the best when it’s either a fighter-jet situation (e.g. BSG, much of Star Wars) or “submarines, but in space” (e.g. The Wrath of Khan). This episode is the latter. And it is VERY good, for that and various other reasons.