This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself.

  • Veltoss@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    1 year ago

    Ignoring of course the countless children they kill who aren’t part of hamas. The ratio of children to adults killed by Israel can only be reached by doing it on purpose.

    You “switching sides” because you don’t like the media reporting on these murders is a joke and I can only assume a lie, because it doesn’t make sense.

    The media reporting stuff doesn’t change what is happening nor the morals and ethics involved. Silly to blame the media for you choosing to support the murder of innocents.

    • istdaslol@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      27
      ·
      1 year ago

      It’s on purpose, but on the hamas side, they use children and civilians in general as human meat shields. They fire their rockets from schools and hospitals, hide their equipment in residential areas. Just to scream „Israel bad“ when one of these outpost gets attacked

      • blazera@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        23
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        1 year ago

        How convenient, when israel kills civilians its because palestine is hiding behind them, in their own country, being bombed. Its only heartless civilian massacres the other way around.

        • istdaslol@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          16
          ·
          1 year ago

          It seems so, if you gloss over the fact that Hamas is using unguided rockets to throw in the general direction of Israel and Israel is using precision ammunition to target the places the first were fired from.

          • blazera@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            17
            arrow-down
            6
            ·
            1 year ago

            So civilians killed by israel are even more egregious then. Like that strike on evacuees that just happened.

            • DarkGamer@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              9
              arrow-down
              16
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              You’re suggesting that intent doesn’t matter, causing accidental civilian deaths while defending one’s self is an act morally equivalent to intentionally targeting and murdering civilians. I disagree. In most legal systems and ethical systems intent matters a lot.

              • blazera@kbin.social
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                12
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                1 year ago

                And palestinians are defending themselves from the much deadlier attacks and long term military occupation of their country and borders.

      • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        Don’t try to claim moral superiority in a blood feud where both sides commit atrocities.

        • DarkGamer@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          11
          ·
          1 year ago

          As if the cartoon this thread is about wasn’t claiming moral superiority for the other side.

        • istdaslol@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          20
          ·
          1 year ago

          Im mainly here to give the „Hamas is a resistance movement“ crowd a reality check

          • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            14
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            They are a violent resistance movement, opposing a violent colonialist movement.

            • istdaslol@feddit.de
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              8
              arrow-down
              11
              ·
              1 year ago

              Israel is expanding into the West Bank, not Gaza. They are resisting nobody. Israel even removed all of its citizens from that area. They are terrorists. They are founded by and doing the bidding for Iran.

              • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                8
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                1 year ago

                If you see this as a black and white conflict, there’s no point in taking to you.

                • istdaslol@feddit.de
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  6
                  arrow-down
                  6
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  By this point I have shown a more nuanced view than you. As I know the difference between the Gaza and West Bank conflict