Its definitely a matter of taste. You’re absolutely allowed to not like a cake because it’s too sweet. You’re allowed to be sickened by it. Where the discourse gets frustrating is when people find it impossible that others don’t find it sickening, and try to convince others that it is unequivocally sickening.
If you have such a visceral reaction… why are you asking people to explain it? Are you listening to the answers and reflecting, or taking the opportunity to speak past their response?
I mean, as a music fan, I have friends whose taste I otherwise respect and that intersect with mine on almost everything else swear up and down that I need to give her another shot. No one’s ever given me reasons other than the boilerplate stuff, so I wanted a bigger pool of opinions. I can find appreciation for something when I understand it better—I wanted to see if anyone had any real point to be made. I’m open to respecting the music for having quality even if it’s not my cup of tea. Everyone finds a lot of quality in her stuff, and I wanted to see if it went beyond the basic, “it’s great pop music, she writes it herself” answer I always get.
Someone elsewhere itt sort of gave me an answer that made sense; that coupled with her enormous celebrity status, the personal insight into that strata through exposing herself emotionally gives people this sense of something incredibly special, and that gave me an angle on the issue I hadn’t really considered. It makes sense. I just find a huge cross section of people who aren’t just pop fans listening to whatever is on the radio/popular/presented to them, but like true musician/musicos who hold her in high esteem. It’s curious, I’m trying to kinda parse what’s at the root of this phenomenon. It’s dumb, but I like to talk about it
Its definitely a matter of taste. You’re absolutely allowed to not like a cake because it’s too sweet. You’re allowed to be sickened by it. Where the discourse gets frustrating is when people find it impossible that others don’t find it sickening, and try to convince others that it is unequivocally sickening.
If you have such a visceral reaction… why are you asking people to explain it? Are you listening to the answers and reflecting, or taking the opportunity to speak past their response?
I mean, as a music fan, I have friends whose taste I otherwise respect and that intersect with mine on almost everything else swear up and down that I need to give her another shot. No one’s ever given me reasons other than the boilerplate stuff, so I wanted a bigger pool of opinions. I can find appreciation for something when I understand it better—I wanted to see if anyone had any real point to be made. I’m open to respecting the music for having quality even if it’s not my cup of tea. Everyone finds a lot of quality in her stuff, and I wanted to see if it went beyond the basic, “it’s great pop music, she writes it herself” answer I always get.
Someone elsewhere itt sort of gave me an answer that made sense; that coupled with her enormous celebrity status, the personal insight into that strata through exposing herself emotionally gives people this sense of something incredibly special, and that gave me an angle on the issue I hadn’t really considered. It makes sense. I just find a huge cross section of people who aren’t just pop fans listening to whatever is on the radio/popular/presented to them, but like true musician/musicos who hold her in high esteem. It’s curious, I’m trying to kinda parse what’s at the root of this phenomenon. It’s dumb, but I like to talk about it