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University of Otago physicists have used a small glass bulb containing an atomic vapor to demonstrate a new form of antenna for radio waves. The bulb was “wired up” with laser beams and could therefore be placed far from any receiver electronics.
Apparently it can cover more frequencies than a typical antenna design. Cool
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Really. Wouldn’t broadcasting on all spectrums basically just be noise?
Edit: the article says “have broad tunability” which I take to mean that no, they just operate on one frequency at a time
It covers more frequencies as in wavelengths as in the bigger the wavelength the bigger the length of the antenna (to put it simply). In this case they’re saying you wouldn’t need to make it as large as a conventional antenna to receive the same frequencies, or you could make it large and receive more frequencies.
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I do think it can receive on many frequencies at once. But I think the Fourier transform won’t be able to untangle a signal if that signal is broadcast continuously on all frequencies.
that’s great, however
In particular, this happens for RF frequencies that couple the Rydberg level resonantly to other nearby Rydberg levels. For sufficiently large fields, the atoms are receptive to a broad range of RF signals via the AC Stark shift.
meaning there’s physical limit on where these bands need to be, outside of these regions it’s less sensitive, and it’s mostly microwaves anyway (authors tested 16-20GHz)
we are able to make very compact extremely broadband receive (and also transmit) antennas for microwave bands, it’s a log spiral antenna backed with cavity. easily can reach to over 40GHz, much simpler, smaller (counting all optics) and probably with much better sensitivity. already used in radar warning receivers, and has nice property that on lower end it’s limited by size, but on upper end on precision of the central section - so can be made really wideband
also that’s really just a transducer, still needs a box with lasers and some other machinery that allows for demodulating that optical signal. “RF detector that doesn’t contain metal” is a weird advantage because there’s usually a large amount of metal connections required to actually do something useful with that freshly collected signal
actual article https://pubs.aip.org/aip/apl/article/123/14/144003/2914151/Distant-RF-field-sensing-with-a-passive-Rydberg
ahh its pointless
I would probably argue that it’s not so much pointless as it currently has more limited use cases than conventional means. This may or may not change in the future.
also that’s really just a transducer, still needs a box with lasers and some other machinery that allows for demodulating that optical signal. “RF detector that doesn’t contain metal” is a weird advantage because there’s usually a large amount of metal connections required to actually do something useful with that freshly collected signal
30m away (that’s longer than a basketball court!), though, and probably more because this demo was “no particular effort”. I don’t know the use case, but I’m guessing it’s not a home router.
This is the type of content we need more of in lemmy. thank you.
“In October 2018, the United States Army Research Laboratory publicly discussed efforts to develop a super wideband radio receiver using Rydberg atoms. In March 2020, the laboratory announced that its scientists analysed the Rydberg sensor’s sensitivity to oscillating electric fields over an enormous range of frequencies—from 0 to 1012 Hz (the spectrum to 0.3mm wavelength). The Rydberg sensor can reliably detect signals over the entire spectrum and compare favourably with other established electric field sensor technologies, such as electro-optic crystals and dipole antenna-coupled passive electronics.”
It’s a neat wiki entry, I recommend it. I hadn’t heard of Rydberg atoms before today.
should be 1012 Hz or 1 THz
TY! One moment, I just ctrl CV’d and this is what happens.
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It sounds like it has no ability to transmit though, right?
