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    8 months ago

    Ad hominem has no place in a strong discussion. I don’t fucking care at all what names you want to call someone; give me salient details. While I do know all about Jack’s interest in supporting the military industrial complex and surveillance state (pretty sure he ended the last show with something along those lines?), I’m not familiar with the apartheid support. Do you have sources on or receipts for that?

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        8 months ago

        I think it’s a stretch to say he’s pro-Palestinian genocide if this is your evidence. He explicitly calls out the Unit 8200 members who were against the Palestinian skullduggery. Being pro-military-spending-on-cyber doesn’t immediately translate to pro-apartheid. Jack really does love deep-throating the surveillance state boot, especially under the guise of “national security,” so I’m not saying he’s necessarily a great person. He doesn’t really cover how fucked up Unit 8200 is or how concerning the cyber connections between the IDF and private industry are, which are great things to attack this episode for. Making tenuous connections to unrelated issues makes it a lot harder to point out how shitty LARPing is in cyber.

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          8 months ago

          Being pro-military-spending-on-cyber doesn’t immediately translate to pro-apartheid

          IMO, it actually does since (if you work in this sector you’ll know) the US military is so intimately interwoven with the IDF that where one begins and the other ends is increasingly hard to decipher. The US military literally has no closer ally.

          PS: at this point, silence on this issue IS tacit approval.

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            8 months ago

            That’s like saying a kid who thinks fighter planes are cool supports Tiger Force. Both are DoJ; one does not follow from the other. Are you also contending he’s pro-DPRK because of the plethora of episodes on Lazarus Group?

            Your silence on every genocide you haven’t mentioned so far is tacit approval so you’re in the same camp as Jack. That doesn’t really move us forward and leads to a gish gallop of superfluous bullshit that takes us away from the real problem, that cyber is full of bootlickers. If you work in the sector you’ll know how bad it is.