I am trying to repeat my 10 Benchmarks video on my 3080M laptop, which I haven’t really used for a while apart from testing NVK. I had forgotten just HOW much Nvidia sucks. I had to reinstall the OS cause OpenSUSE stopped booting after I installed the drivers the first time. X11 is ALSO buggy on Nvidia and crashes randomly. windows won’t show, the Steam Friends List window hangs. This is almost unusable.
NAK and GSP cannot be merged soon enough so I can get rid of this proprietary atrocity.
Earlier this year I had a months long issue where my desktop image would freeze if I set its refresh rate higher than 120. I thought my GPU was breaking up, but I finally found a post on the Nvidia forum where someone else had the same issue and realized that it was because of the newest driver. It took months for Nvidia to fix that. Two months ago I just decided to switch to AMD and sold my Nvidia card and haven’t had any issues with AMD so far.
To be fair AMD recently had a bug where the 6000 series GPUs would sit at 96 mhz unless you set your refresh rate below 100hz and that also took a couple months to be fixed. I was randomly getting 20fps in every game until I managed to find this gitlab issue. It started in kernel 6.4 and wasn’t fixed until 6.6 so I had to play at 90hz on my 165hz monitor for that whole span.
This is why LTS kernels are a good thing. I used 6.1 that entire time and didn’t even know the issue existed on my 6700XT
I’m someone that likes to tinker and be on the bleeding edge, but I agree, LTS makes sense on hardware that is more than 6 months old or so.
Yeah, same reason I use LTS. Latest features are nice and all but I want a stable system for my everyday life.
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LTS is no guarantee that there wont be bugs, 6.1 recently had a bug with NFS where it corrupted files.
I didn’t say it was?
You do get fewer bugs, though, and equally frequent hotfixes
No you didnt, I was just trying to say that you’re not safe either way.
Safety is a sliding scale. You’re certainly safer than bleeding edge
My 3080M won’t go higher than 80W on Linux for the past 3 years that I have this laptop. I tried both the 535 and 545 drivers, still same issue. This is absolutely unacceptable.
reinstall the OS cause OpenSUSE stopped booting
Just do a snapper rollback. It’s pretty easy:
- Boot from older kernel in the boot menu and check if it works
- Run
sudo snapper rollback - Reboot
Boom, saved you a reinstall.
Alternatively, you can set up zypper to keep old NVIDIA packages, then just login to a CLI and install the older driver package, then reboot. I did that a few times as well, but the snapper rollback was easier.
X11 is ALSO buggy
I didn’t have any of those issues for the 3-ish years I was on Tumbleweed and NVIDIA. I’m now still on Tumbleweed, but have switched to AMD for proper Wayland support
Thanx for the rollback command! :)
And yeah, some games wouldn’t even boot. So I’m doing 5 games in this benchmark after all. Perhaps it’s cause it’s an Optimus laptop.
Perhaps. It’s been years since I messed with that. In fact, my last laptop I opted for an AMD APU and no GPU so I wouldn’t need to deal with graphics switching.
Nvidia is the best for Windows. But, if you want the best on Linux and Windows Amd is good
It is the best if you are paying for the top of the top. In the medium spectrum is probably better to go AMD or Intel cause the cost/benefit.
Nvidia won’t even let you use their software on Windows if you don’t give them your user data. Hardly the best.
That’s only if you care about the GeForce Experience software, I don’t even have it installed so it doesn’t bug me about updates. You can download and install drivers any time without signing in to an account.
I guess mileage might differ. I installed Tumbleweed and then the Nvidia drivers following the wiki instructions. Everything is going great. Running a 3060 with Wayland+Plasma on a 360Hz screen and gaming through Steam. I love Tumbleweed.
An alternative if just for benchmarking is EndeavourOS, you can choose proprietary Nvidia drivers as a boot option in the installer and then I believe it’ll be installed with them without further ado. Downside is if you use it long term you have to read Arch News before updates to spot breaking/incompatible changes and be knowledagable of things like pacnew/pacsave files, etc.
I reinstalled Tumbleweed and it worked fine. Have a 3080M vs 6800M benchmark coming up once it’s done transcoding.
Nah, I have same issues. My hardware is 2 years old. I use manjaro/Ubuntu LTS and Non-LTS/PopOS/LinuxMint/Zorin/LMDE/Nobara and endeavour OS and it’s freezing quite often and I have to go back to Windows atm. I think Nvidia is main culprit here. If I move to Full AMD. I might try Linux again
Reject AMD/NVidia
Embrace RISC-V.
(No, really. I’m unironically considering using an risc-v sbc as my next “main desktop pc” for the next few years, and relying (only) on cloud gaming for my dopamine needs.)
not everyone have stable Internet connection. Local game is the best
…are you sure about that? 10 Gibps is about to be standardized all around the globe.
Also 10gibps doesn’t say anything about the latency, which is what makes me avoid cloud hardware steaming
No, but we are talking about a STREAMING service. Which means, an ISP would have to be beyond terrible if it couldn’t provide decent streaming performance under an 10 Gibps connection. Which thankfully, is not the case even for Africans, Nigarians or any other “sub third-world country.”
What? No, games arent just “streaming”, the time between you seeing stuff and and the server processing your inputs reacting to this new state of the game should be short, you can easily do this with a 500mbps connection with low latency but will not work with a 10gbps with 200 ping.
Additionally, if you have a spotty 10gbs connection, you’ll still have a bad experience. The maximum capabilities of something doesn’t define how it can be used in the real world. I’m not denying some people can use it just fine, but it’s not mainstream for a reason.
Internet capability in first world countries and Third World countries are totally different. also, cloud gaming is definitely no go if you want to play on the plane (Steam Deck/Switch/ROG etc is the solution for this)
Hahahahaha! I live in germany and the best I can get is 250mbits for 75 € per month. We have no cable, no fiber, only dsl/copper lines.
What was that about first world countries?
OK this is new to me, do you live in the countryside? I live around Porto Alegre in Brazil and for 120 reais (9% of minimum wage and around 24 euros I have a 500mbps fiber connection. But it would be dramatically different between metropolitan areas and a small city
Nope. On the edge of a big city. A couple streets further they have fiber. Here, they dont. But congrats to you having a good connection. Mine is roughly 6% of minimum wage.
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Huh? Third world countries are 100% capable to deal with streaming servers with flawless performance – where are you getting those ideas from?
Since when?
Most places in the US still can’t get 1G, let alone 10. 1st world countries aren’t even close to that target, let alone a developing nation.
If you’re thinking about starlink, it’s going to be terrible for gaming and introduces a ton of latency.
*Cries in German*
AMD/Nivdia GPUs will still run with RISC-V. RISC-V is a CPU architecture, not GPU.
Even Nvidia have embraced RISC-V, the general purpose controller embedded on their GPU’s is RISC-V.
