If someone proposes an argument and another person tries to counter the proposed argument with the goal being to critically analyze the topic and challenge a position, the conversation becomes a “debate”. Regardless of if the setting is formal or not. If you’d prefer to not call the conversation a debate, that’s fine, Libs are well known for trying to redefine words to fit their narrative and the definition of debate itself varies depending on which source you query…
Since this isn’t a formal debate and you were clear that you didn’t think it’s a debate at all, why then would you imply that the conversation must have a winner or a loser? Seems contradictory. I certainly didn’t tell you that I won because I pointed out something that was seemingly obvious to everyone, besides yourself.
You seem generally confused as you lack the capacity to analyze a simple conversation. If the only thoughts you are capable of explaining are calling people names because you disagree with their position, I doubt you should be anywhere near an entertainment medium and more focused on furthering your education. Maybe then you might be able to comprehend the joke and attack it’s position and validity.
I truly hope you have a brighter future ahead of you. Best wishes.
For anyone viewing this comment thread, be aware that the tactic being used here is a common tactic among disingenuous and bad faith actors.
The tactic is to first make a volley that is divisive and controversial, usually lacking in respectful tone or tact with how brazenly illogical it is. Then once engaged with at the appropriate level (calling bullshit what it is), retreats into appeals for civility and decorum as it pertains to rational debate.
The subject being promoted here is not rational, the consequences are not beneficial to society at large, and this person only wants to cling to civility when it benefits him to do so, in order to appear to be a sympathetic victim in comparison to the other person in the dialogue.
Don’t fall for this transparent ruse. Learn to identify this pattern. @Unhappily_Coerced has no intention of advancing a real debate.
SCOTUS disagrees and I am so pleased that years of blatant racism is being reversed regarding college admissions. Cannot wait to see what’s next!
Many people are saying that my position is wrong, but nobody has yet to try and explain why they think so. Instead we have “bait-and-switched,” “reverse-racism,” “microaggressions”, “bad faith actors,” “bird-brained simpleton,” etc… It’s both hilarious and sad that none of you can provide reinforcement for your positions.
Here’s mine: Racism is discrimination by an institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group. Literally affirmative action and college admissions. But the libs and leftys will deny this to the death without ever trying to back it up. Why is that?
The subject being promoted here is not rational, the consequences are not beneficial to society at large, and this person only wants to cling to civility when it benefits him to do so, in order to appear to be a sympathetic victim in comparison to the other person in the dialogue.
I couldn’t care less how many names the members of m/politics call me. It’s honestly hilarious how fresh this site is yet how much of an echo chamber it has already become. If you want to be m/lib-scum or m/donkey-politics… I’d totally get that, I wouldn’t support it, but I’d recognize that at least you tried. Instead, you’re m/politics, so you should surely expect that both sides of current arguments would be present. I was surprised that this assumption was false.
So, you get what ask for.
On another note, I’m not attempting to “appear as a victim,” we have enough leftys and libs doing that on a daily basis, I certainly wouldn’t want to come off as soft headed or cowardice as that lot. I’m simply calling out the bullshit as I see it. I’m certainly not claiming I’m innocent of bullshitting and name calling.
If someone proposes an argument and another person tries to counter the proposed argument with the goal being to critically analyze the topic and challenge a position, the conversation becomes a “debate”. Regardless of if the setting is formal or not. If you’d prefer to not call the conversation a debate, that’s fine, Libs are well known for trying to redefine words to fit their narrative and the definition of debate itself varies depending on which source you query…
Since this isn’t a formal debate and you were clear that you didn’t think it’s a debate at all, why then would you imply that the conversation must have a winner or a loser? Seems contradictory. I certainly didn’t tell you that I won because I pointed out something that was seemingly obvious to everyone, besides yourself.
You seem generally confused as you lack the capacity to analyze a simple conversation. If the only thoughts you are capable of explaining are calling people names because you disagree with their position, I doubt you should be anywhere near an entertainment medium and more focused on furthering your education. Maybe then you might be able to comprehend the joke and attack it’s position and validity.
I truly hope you have a brighter future ahead of you. Best wishes.
For anyone viewing this comment thread, be aware that the tactic being used here is a common tactic among disingenuous and bad faith actors.
The tactic is to first make a volley that is divisive and controversial, usually lacking in respectful tone or tact with how brazenly illogical it is. Then once engaged with at the appropriate level (calling bullshit what it is), retreats into appeals for civility and decorum as it pertains to rational debate.
The subject being promoted here is not rational, the consequences are not beneficial to society at large, and this person only wants to cling to civility when it benefits him to do so, in order to appear to be a sympathetic victim in comparison to the other person in the dialogue.
Don’t fall for this transparent ruse. Learn to identify this pattern. @Unhappily_Coerced has no intention of advancing a real debate.
@bobthened
SCOTUS disagrees and I am so pleased that years of blatant racism is being reversed regarding college admissions. Cannot wait to see what’s next!
Many people are saying that my position is wrong, but nobody has yet to try and explain why they think so. Instead we have “bait-and-switched,” “reverse-racism,” “microaggressions”, “bad faith actors,” “bird-brained simpleton,” etc… It’s both hilarious and sad that none of you can provide reinforcement for your positions.
Here’s mine: Racism is discrimination by an institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group. Literally affirmative action and college admissions. But the libs and leftys will deny this to the death without ever trying to back it up. Why is that?
I couldn’t care less how many names the members of m/politics call me. It’s honestly hilarious how fresh this site is yet how much of an echo chamber it has already become. If you want to be m/lib-scum or m/donkey-politics… I’d totally get that, I wouldn’t support it, but I’d recognize that at least you tried. Instead, you’re m/politics, so you should surely expect that both sides of current arguments would be present. I was surprised that this assumption was false.
So, you get what ask for.
On another note, I’m not attempting to “appear as a victim,” we have enough leftys and libs doing that on a daily basis, I certainly wouldn’t want to come off as soft headed or cowardice as that lot. I’m simply calling out the bullshit as I see it. I’m certainly not claiming I’m innocent of bullshitting and name calling.
So, you get what you give.
Your respect isn’t worth earning.