Does Ukraine need to give up some land (Crimea) at the end? Or is there something else for Putin to save face like what (?) they did with Wagner?

  • DpwnShift@kbin.social
    8·
    1 year ago

    Why would they to give up some of their territory to the invader? Right now, they’re holding off the much bigger nation’s aggression just fine, while bleeding Russia. Tell your country to continue supporting Ukraine!

    • Cloudless ☼OP
      6·
      1 year ago

      I don’t think Ukraine should give up their territory.

      I fully support Ukraine. I know that Ukraine is doing their best to defend the country.

      But at the same time I don’t want to see more Ukrainians die from this war. I have been thinking whether it is possible to end the war sooner via negotiation instead of additional years of war until Russia is finally exhausted.

      Putin doesn’t care about people’s lives, but we should. I want Ukraine to win the war, at the same time I want Ukrainians to live.

      • skillissuer@lemmy.world
        11·
        1 year ago

        why not look at what the people involved think about it?

        89% of Ukrainians think that fighting should continue if RuAF uses nuclear weapon over battlefield or over a city

        93% of Ukrainians think that acceptable ceasefire conditions involve return to 1991 borders. only 11% think it’s acceptable to leave Crimea to Russia

        83% of Ukrainians think that they won’t be secure as long as current russian government has power

        https://securityconference.org/publikationen/munich-security-report-2023/spotlight-ukraine/

      • snooggums@kbin.social
        5·
        1 year ago

        If Russia gets some land out of an invasion again, they will just continue until they gradually take more and more over time. They took Crimea in 2014 and that didn’t keep them from trying to get the rest.

        Russia must give everything back including Crimea and pay restitution to have any kind of fair outcome. Russia giving all of the land back and nothing else would be Ukraine compromising.