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    I didn’t expect the last act of the user. Simply amazing.

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      Fix implemented: user given apron and replacement cake.

      There’s a certain point where you just shrug and give up.

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        Sometimes you just have to accept that the problem exists between the keyboard and chair and work around it.

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    This reminds me of the time QA was insisting that my touchscreen driver wasn’t working right, so I walked over and peeled the protective plastic off the screen.

    Or the time a third-party tester claimed that a device was consuming more power that it was supposed to, so I flew across the country to remove a piece of tape from the front of the device.

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      What are you complaining about? You got a trip and the pleasure of peeling! Not to mention the smugness benefit from seeing their faces. I hope you ate some local specialty before flying home.

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        It was Baltimore. In February.

        I never got to see the face of the asshole who put the tape on. It wasn’t the tester’s fault that time, but that of some dumbass manager.

        I did get crab cakes tho

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    Shit take: If you dont make the UI dummy proof then its the programmers fault not the user

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      Counter point. I had a customer call me back in the day when I was working tech support. Complained that his new computer wasn’t working. Plugged in, light goes on but the screen just stays blank. Turns out he only bought a monitor. Thought the guys at the store were trying to scam him into “buying two boxes” that he didn’t need. When I tried to explain he got mad saying I must be in on the scam.

      Bonus points: when the call first connected his question was "why is my email not working?” Took a while to work that back to the actual issue.

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        Reminds me of the time this lady came in carrying the PC and the CRT monitor saying it didn’t work, I plugged it in, turned it on, the tower did all the right noises and lights, but the screen was black. I thought for a second, then reached for the brightness control and voila, there it was. The embarrassment of the poor lady!

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        I used be a computer technician at a small town computer shop around 2008-2011. More than half of our customers were over 60.

        Sometimes I needed to take some tech support calls, and sometimes I needed to make house calls to troubleshoot the folks issues.

        Literally every support call started with “Why doesn’t the email work?” while the actual problem ranged from ISP issues, and modem faults, PC faults, Windows configuration errors, to dead monitors or a broken mouse. Literally any computer fault could be described as a failure to access their email.

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        Depends on how what dummy proof is. Not being able to shoot yourself in the foot and main line success case is easily navigable by people that are bad with tech is dummy proof to me. Not possible with all programs ofc.

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      Another counterpoint: When you start implementing all that dummy proofing, you make the software more and more tedious to work with for people who know what they’re doing.

      I think it’s quite obviously an issue that needs balance. Some software is meant to be seamless to get started with, so that users can get something done once in a while, some software is meant to be used long-term by professionals and requires productivity. And yet, many people jump on anything they don’t immediately understand as bad UX.

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        “A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.” - Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Addams

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        “A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.” - Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Addams

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      It’s literally impossible. I’ve seen programs ask three times to confirm a deletion, with big warnings, really emphasized. Saying it’s permanent all three times.

      Then the fuckers contacted us at tech support and go all like “hurr durr I just deleted my project can I have it back”.

      NO YOU LITTLE DIPSHIT YOU CANNOT. We did have backups though, most of the time (if it was recent) but it took well over a couple hours to properly restore, so we only did it if they asked nicely and behaved.

      TL;DR People are stupid, no such thing as dump proofing. What needs to be done is hold people to higher standards and force to educate themselves or GTFO.

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          What if we cannot afford the space of keeping everything backed uo forever? What if it has been a year? Where do we put the limits to “okay, this is stupid” and “this is perfectably reasonable”? What if the action cannot be reversed, and after deletion you need to anonimyze particularly sensitive data?

          I say to all that, READ THE FUCKING MANUAL. If you are not apt enough to read and research about the software, you are not apt enough to use it.

          Same with hardware. You cut your finger because you didnt follow instructions clearly laid out for you not to cut your finger when using a saw? Maybe sawing was not for you mate

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            Its just true. People become desensitized to warnings and ignore them. Putting three of them is an example of bad UX because at that point you need to do something else.

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              I’m sorry but people have to have a bare minimum of a awareness and understanding of the tools they use literally every day. I work in tech support, you have to stop cutting people slack at some point and make sure they understand it’s their fault.

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      I used to blindly believe that but man, it’s just impossible sometimes. And I started thinking about how we don’t hold a lot of other industries to the same standards. It’s tough to think that the same person who can’t fill a basic online form is allowed to operate guns or heavy killer machines (cars) daily.

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    And then he drops it into his lap. After all that struggle, he drops it into his lap.