Hey y’all, In the past I had arranged that /f/piracy in raddle.me would be the fallback forum for /r/piracy, but I recently noticed that raddle.me has disabled new user registrations and that would be a problem in case we need it.
And with reddit about to go public, it might be needed.
Instead of trying to spin up my own lemmy instance, I was thinking if I could get a mod position in this forum and specify it as the official /r/piracy fallback instead.
Feel free to PM me in reddit for verification.
You realize the alternative was to lose the subreddit to the reddit admins, yes?
So you destroyed the village in order to save it? You did lose the subreddit anyway. Nothing could ever be discussed. Everyone self-censored even if you didn’t force the issue on them.
The admins did it. But instead of them doing it despite your efforts, you cooperated. Hell, even that might be forgivable if afterward you’d realized the mistake you made and owned up to it. Instead, you’re here defending it.
What great lessons have you learned, that the same or similar wouldn’t be repeated here? I mean, another person might have spent years struggling with and straining their brain to figure out how to make a forum that assholes like the reddit admins can’t nuke. No, your best is apparently waiting for someone else to come up with a possible solution, and then just migrating over to it until the copyright trolls catch up and start lobbing legal thermonukes in this direction. Then I guess you’ll cooperate again, and wait for yet another forum to be created somewhere else, only to repeat the pattern.
Hello, I read the situation, and they made the right call from what it looks like. Shutting down the entire subreddit would have been worse than its mostly intact existence now, and the old posts were archived, so the post link removal is not an issue. Old content and talk was never lost. The talk of an exodus being possible in the first place here, is because it was not shut down back then.
How? If shut down, then there would be no forum. And the other option, there was the appearance of a forum, where nothing of substance about the topic it was founded upon could be discussed.
This wasn’t about people posting torrent links (or not just that). They were nuking all sorts of shit. Discussions of when torrents might become available in the future, technical details on how anything worked, release names. You name it, anything of interest was gone (and that’s only from that point going forward, literally everything going backwards was scrubbed and scrubbed hard).
When a large social media platform continues to exist, even if it’s bad, even if it’s unusable… it sucks the oxygen out of the room. Often making it impossible for anything else to take its place, even if that substitute would fix those problems. By keeping that forum around, it starved out other possible venues for years.
It wasn’t the right call. It just happened to be the only call where he got to continue to “be in charge”. Which is the thing he’s most concerned about here, with this post.
That’s great for historiants in the 26th century, they have access to all of those posts. For the vast majority of human beings alive today, they are effectively gone. They cannot be found without extraordinary, heroic efforts. Which no one will bother to do, because if they knew what it was they were looking for exactly, there’d be no reason to search in the first place.
“Don’t worry that he burned down the public library, some millionaire book collector who lives in Europe somewhere has private copies of all the rare editions!”
That exodus happened way back then. Just no one noticed because they had a heavily-censored forum with enough activity that it looked like something was going on.
I have not even used r/piracy ever, because I have been on top of almost everything for longer than a decade. But people visited there, and got advice, so it is a place where people can get help.
The scrubbed data is here, not hard to find, all in a 91 MB 7z archive. https://old.reddit.com/r/piracy/b3zzzp/
Sure. And I can go read cuneiform tablets to find out what the ancient Babylonians had to say.
You realise right that you can download and get to reading all of that 91 MB of text within 5 minutes on your computer? You said:
This is simply untrue.
It’s simply true. Perhaps you think you can do it, which means that everyone else can do it and easily. You are atypical.
For everyone else, this is effectively gone. Even for the people who’d hang out in r/piracy who can be counted on to be slightly more technically savvy, it’s effectively gone. I know how to download your link (I even know how to find it without your help). I know what a 7z link is. I know or can find out what format those posts are in (json?). But I’ll be damned if I can search through them to find anything useful or interesting, and I know even less than that about how to index them to make them easily searchable by anyone else.
They’re dead. Dead and buried. In giant concrete containment vaults like some scragged nuclear reactor.
Aggressively asserting that I’m wrong isn’t the same thing as making an intelligent argument.
Wait what? Are you claiming that opening HTML page for each archived post is impossible for anyone?u
This proves you did not even bother to download and check the file structure layout, and are making assumptions upon assumptions. Why comment without checking?
Over reaction. A very bad take.
You are doubling down unnecessarily and dying on the wrong hill, mate. Stop.