The world is burning and everyone knows it. The far right is co-opting it and the liberals don’t know what to do. The conspiratorial fascists are the only ones claiming to be pro-working class, against corporations, anti-establishment, anti-MSM, and so on. They can pull radicalizing people in a terrible direction. This is what Naomi Klein calls the doppelganger effect, but it seems Lemmygrad doesn’t like podcasts. Most people can see they are evil, so the establishment liberals can say the only way to want change is to be them and neutralize many people.

Those that actually want to do something about the many crises are fragmented and co-opted. The liberal ideology leads to this. A key part of metaphysics is believing everything is separate and atomized, alienated. This leads liberals to see politics as a buffet of issues where they don’t know which to pick. I heard a liberal podcast a while ago which stuck with me because they were talking about how all the different causes seem paralyzing. Should one fight for abortion rights? Against book bans? For the environment? They know democrats won’t do shit, but they gotta keep voting because the GOP baddies are worse. They concluded everyone should just pick an issue and start doing something and hope things work out.

This is where Marxism comes in. We understand the interconnected nature of these problems and what we need to do to overcome them. We can show conspiracy minded people what the real problems are and what they’re really covering up. We can explain to the liberals how they can try to influence all their issues at once.

My question is should we do this in an organized fashion and infiltrate liberal groups to try to pull “converts?” These are the politically active people after all. Should we try to do a CPC working inside the KMT thing? Are groups already doing anything like this? Should we just try to organize a vocal alternative and get noticed by people who want change on social media and in communities?

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    Start a social club where you do some sort of activity and they are all not liberals.

    Find a local liberal or nonliberal activist group working on some sort of project. Join them in good faith and work circles around them along with your club.

    Recruit members of the group into your social club also in good faith.

    You now have a small activism group and an established ally.

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      That just sounds like using organizing to get friends (not a bad thing). Unless you mean the social club is to be around people to convince them more, and you intend to radicalize that group from the inside.

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        Think of it as a labor pool for your projects. They should be people who are willing to do work for you, not necessarilly ones who agree with you.

        Work such as - canvas this neighborhood, clean up trash for these homeless people, drive this homeless person to their hometown to get their birth certificate, go to this picket line, or anything else you can think of.

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      You repeat the phrase ‘in good faith’ several times here but what you’re describing is still just entryism

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        Yeah I think entryism is a good strategy when you are doing activism at a small level in your local town and community. I use “in good faith” to mean that your intention is to openly become friends with the members as opposed to causing a split or undermining the organization. Additionally, as a small group of activists it can be a challenge to find something to do that isn’t just book meetings. I’m not against the idea of a therory reading social club, but to me thats only the first step.

        I support the social club then entryism followed by being your own independant thing. Additionally, this is within the context of a rural area where there isn’t already some kind of Communist party. So the organization you are practicing entryism with is going to more than likely be a church or the local fire department.