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    Although not on-device only , they were till recently investing on this. Yes cloud resources were used but their development was focusing on on device process.

    Apple “invested” which means it can be on any company or research dealing with AI.

    I have difficult to believe that anything Google, Meta, MS, Samsung, Nvidia (or many others) propose will be in good faith the same as Apple. Also Tim said that regulation needs to get in place, not that Apple will dictate it. A regulatory body of several companies.

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      Although not on-device only , they were till recently investing on this. Yes cloud resources were used but their development was focusing on on device process.

      Where did you see this? Again, last rumors I saw indicated there were considering cloud-based solutions, as well as hybrid and on-device.

      Apple “invested” which means it can be on any company or research dealing with AI.

      Where are you getting your numbers from?

      I have difficult to believe that anything Google, Meta, MS, Samsung, Nvidia (or many others) propose will be in good faith the same as Apple

      Maybe, maybe not. But you don’t see them making sanctimonious proclamations about what others should do. Again, no one’s going to take Cook’s position seriously until Apple has a stake in the matter.

      Also Tim said that regulation needs to get in place, not that Apple will dictate it. A regulatory body of several companies.

      Apple hates regulation. See their ongoing fight with the EU et al. And they’re happy to ignore the work of standards bodies whenever they please. If Apple wants regulation, they really want Apple-defined regulation.

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        Where did you see this? Again, last rumors I saw indicated there were considering cloud-based solutions, as well as hybrid and on-device.

        You seem to have a very selective habit when you read on what your read. I state “up till now” and “until recently”, read more carefully next time.
        Also on every announcement they made for Siri, AI on device on their presentations etc.

        Where are you getting your numbers from?

        You can obviously google for past interviews/news, similar to any other company investment, but in the first 5 seconds I found this
        https://www.businessinsider.com/tim-cook-apples-ai-research-spend-generative-2023-8

        But you don’t see them making sanctimonious proclamations about what others should do

        You are joking , yes? MS, Google , Meta, Samsung, Intel etc did not made any statements on especially Apple?
        are you living under a stone or something?

        > Apple hates regulation.

        All big companies will try to avoid regulations if they can benefit from it, again since you seem to be blind for others, Google, Amazon, MS, Meta, VW , the list goes on. They will only bring up regulation when it is towards their interest.

        See their ongoing fight with the EU et al.

        I am going to need a coupe of hours to expand on that, but again same as every other company.see above, especially when they invested money on it

        And they’re happy to ignore the work of standards bodies whenever they please. If Apple wants regulation, they really want Apple-defined regulation.

        And again, EVERY company will try to avoid the rules or regulations if the can benefit from it and will only revert to those when it suits them best. Apple, Google, MS, Meta, VW, the list goes on

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          You seem to have a very selective habit when you read on what your read. I state “up till now” and “until recently”, read more carefully next time.

          You were making claims about what they were researching, not what they’ve released. These are not the same thing. And your sentence was a gramatical mess, do maybe consider writing more clearly?

          You can obviously google for past interviews/news, similar to any other company investment, but in the first 5 seconds I found this

          Your claim was that Apple invests as much as anyone else in AI. There’s nothing in that link to suggest that statement is true. So am I to presume you just made it up?

          You are joking , yes? MS, Google , Meta, Samsung, Intel etc did not made any statements on especially Apple? are you living under a stone or something?

          Sure. Please find where those companies suggested regulation in a field they don’t participate in. Much less AI-specific.

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            You were making claims about what they were researching, not what they’ve released. These are not the same thing. And your sentence was a gramatical mess, do maybe consider writing more clearly?

            I was writing as to what they were researching which also included what they released. Research does not happen overnight genius .
            My sentence is more than fine, maybe you need to learn to read.

            Your claim was that Apple invests as much as anyone else in AI. There’s nothing in that link to suggest that statement is true. So am I to presume you just made it up?

            either read the article again or learn to do a 5 minute google search. The only made up here is that you refuse to accept that you are not correct

            Sure. Please find where those companies suggested regulation in a field they don’t participate in. Much less AI-specific.

            messaging, USB/connectors, CPU chips, countless and countless lawsuits between each other, App stores, and the list goes on.