Surely it would place a massive asterisk on all the trophies won during his time at Man City? In future discussions on the greatest manager would this be a talking point which stains our perception on him? Or will he still be lauded as the greatest by some despite the wider context?
If found guilty??? City are guilty as fuck corrupt cunts
Glad to know we can count on you during the hearing. Bayern Paul KC.
The scandals are all about Mancini, so probably doesn’t change much from Pep’s perspective
Seasons under Pep’s charge are still being investigated by EPL, so I wouldn’t be so sure about that just yet
Indeed, however all the charges are pre-pep
It’s just speculation to think it was after.
He’s not the one that broke the rules but I’m sure he’s connected enough within the club to know at least some of what they’ve done. Plus, with Mancini being paid via all sorts of channels, it’s hard not to believe Guardiola has also benefited from their rule breaking as well. I don’t think anything will come back to him as even if he’s found to have been paid from various sources it’ll probably go to his agent, but he definitely knows they’ve cheated.
His legacy would be done for if they’re guilty as every single trophy won would be deemed won through cheating. He’d surely need to resign from a club that, according to him at least, told him they’re completely innocent and it’s merely his great leadership that caused all of their success. Any morals left in him would surely cause him to not want to be taken down with them.
Yes it would. That plus the referee payments Barcelona is accused of would seriously tarnish his legacy.
Would ruin his legacy…there’s no way he didn’t know what the club was doing
It would make all his achievements at city null and void. If you can’t win within the rules, you are effectively a cheat.
Like Liverpool hacking Man City’s scouting data illegally and then going on to win success.
Glad we can call everyone out for cheating, cheating is cheating and if you can’t play by the rules then your success means nothing.
Did that actually happen?
Yep, nothing :)
Well the Liverpool league win already means nothing because of Covid. I often forget it even happened.
And yet you are the only one talking about it in this thread.
The league win that we had wrapped up by Christmas doesn’t count because a literal deadly force of nature tried (and failed) to stop us?
Can I get the number for your copium dealer? Cause it looks like good shit.
I dunno mate. The amount of downvotes kind of suggests that you lot know what I mean.
You just mentioned it you dinny.
You mean the season we had amassed enough points, pre-Covid, to win the league? Literally 25 point ahead in February but ours gets called the Covid title. City in 20-21 played in empty stadiums for about 30 games and it barely gets questioned 😂
I’ve clearly struck a nerve.
Come on now, how’s Pep got anything to do with the financials. He’s got no clue if they’ve been breaking FFP rules.
Pep had the bank account in Andorra to hide income as alleged by the Spanish tax authorities. The SkySports article re the Man City FFP violations says:
“Allegedly, they did not fully disclose the financial remunerations that were made to one of their managers over a four-year period. The suggestion is that there was a secret contract so one of the managers was getting paid much more than officially stated.”
Who do you suppose that one manager was? One of the assistants probably wouldn’t be getting paid enough to matter. https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11679/12804623/man-city-premier-league-charges-explained-what-are-they-what-could-punishment-be-whats-the-timescale
He’s got no clue
hahaha, mate, literally fans have been pointing out irregularities for years now. If Pep couldn’t see them he’s fucking blind.
He’d walk away unscathed to the next club with an endless pot of oil money.
So next Newcastle manager being Pep? Loaning Neymar and so on :D That would be just pure comedy.
We all knew they were cheating even before he got there and he was part of various scandals, being it with referees, corruption, players, shady deals and so on, even from his time at Barcelona and even form his time as a player.
I never considered him the best manager. He is the one willing to do anything it takes and to make his hands dirty, yes.
Tbf, Fergie was the exact same way and he’s also often included in the conversation. Who do you consider the best? José?
Agree. He would never take on a lower half PL team, because he would be found out. They can’t afford the bribes and rule breaking to secure success.
No, it’s because he’s way too good for any of them. He’s even way too good for ol’ Yanited, who have a shite Pep wannabee rn. Do you also cry that Messi and Ronaldo are frauds because they only played for the biggest richest clubs and that they would be found out at a smaller club?
Great manager for sure, but I’ve always found the notion that he’s in the same bracket as the all time greats kind of odd. He might end his career winning more trophies than Ferguson did, but he’s not on that level.
Only Brits and Prem fanboys think Ferguson is better than Pep
the financial doping makes that accurate…
Pep has literally never coached even the 2nd richest team in a league
I remember him saying when all this was starting that he would leave if he thought they were cheating. It’s been obvious since they did cheat and it was only on technicalities they got away the first time. So his legacy regarding his honor, integrity is tainted for sure. Same with players.
I just hacked your pc and it says your a nonce, police will be round in 15 mins to take you away.
If “obvious” is hacked evidence with no verification then you need to be ready to accept that standard across the board.
Let the process take place and then it will be obvious because if it was obvious this wouldn’t take over 3 years to sort out.
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I think his words were if they lied to me (the owners) he would leave. I think the owners have told him they cheated and he worded it like that on purpose
100%
My opinion on that statement has always been that he’s being a snake. He knows they cheated, but by saying that he thinks he can jump ship if they’re found guilty and pretend its because he has integrity.
“Obvious they did cheat?”
Do you know something about this case that the general population is not privy to?
Hes not the one who cheated, he is part of the cheating.
Pep is one of the best managers in the world. Thats why man city need to cheat the money so they can afford the best.
Its like haaland. He still scored all those goals, even if the finances used to build the team were unfair.
Still strange that he always ends up with clubs cheating and all his players diving
Barcelona was buying referees and had a strong relationship with Dr Fuentes when he was there
There’s no denying his quality as a coach. It would certainly taint his Man City career though.
Turns out Barca was paying refs too.
Heavily imo
It would void everything that was achieved during the relevant periods. Financial doping is what it is, doping. If you cheated to win in a sport, you didn’t win, and you may as well have not played at all.
In theory, it would depend on whether or not it can be proven that he was aware of and/or responsible for any of the violations.
In reality, it will be guilt by association. His ardent supporters will claim innocence, and his detractors will claim he should have known enough to stop it.
He is definitely aware.
Aren’t all the charges raised from before he joined?