There is a danger with internet brash who have neither power, nor the responsibility to use it for the benefit of hundreds of millions, a billion humans to exercise it who deign to lecture Xi on this. Who rashly rush to say ‘fuck him’ or as the ultras and succ-dems would do say it proves he’s not really a Marxist, a communist, a comrade.
I suppose they’d prefer he drop his pants, take a shit on a picture of Kissinger and end his video message with a middle finger as if that would be anything but self gratifying behavior. And it is the habit of many in the west to engage in self-gratifying thinking, actions, and even useless self-flagellation because power is nowhere near them. This is the risk, the siren call of ultra-leftism, the divorce of some imagined purity from reality for those so far from being able to engage in practice on the level of an in power party.
It’s natural but it needs to be tempered and controlled by reason.
Kissinger was a mass murderer but he was only so because of the system he had power in incentivized, encouraged, allowed it. I’m not saying he was a good human, he objectively was not and did nothing to try to stop the machine, rather lovingly oiling it. However he also objectively did things that were positive for China’s development from their point of view. Was in some ways more restrained and reasonable with peer powers than many of his students who unfortunately now hold sway. In his latter years he after all thought the Ukraine policy was a mistake, that Russia had real legitimate concerns about NATO encroachment that far east, and continued to act in favor of maintaining openness with China, perhaps only out of vanity because it was seen as his crowning achievement but he did so none-the-less and China would do well, does well to encourage everyone who wants that openness.
Kissinger was an important cog but he was just a cog in a machine. He didn’t seek to change its nature and was criminal of course on that count and on running millions to their deaths as a mass murderer. But in the international business of diplomacy the purview of diplomatic functions is not to engage in ruthless, religious, zealous purity testing but to do what you can with what you have. And when it comes to the stinking barrel of rotting apples that is the US trying to find a good one anywhere near the levers of power is a fool’s errand, all of them have blood on their hands, care not for the proletariat, use human beings as fodder and grist for the machine. Thus those in power in other nations reach for one less rotten in ways that matter to them. At least that’s the Chinese approach and I think we owe it to them to support them as they are still standing and succeeding while the USSR (which was much more confrontational) is not.
History after the revolution will likely judge Kissinger just one of a large handful of rotten, murderous, genocidal imperialists and that perhaps is the greatest slight we can give to him in death, to make him less of this towering power and assign him his reality as a cog. The blood stained hands that killed millions in Vietnam and Cambodia will not be put into the ground in the next month, they are the hands of the US itself and they continue to work. We must remember that for the victims of his and those of the modern State Dept planners.
All top level American executive, diplomatic, intelligence personnel are criminals, are party to genocide, ecocide, mass murder, war crimes, crimes against humanity. To that degree I don’t feel much about this dead man other than a slight pleasure he died fearing his work was unraveling. There are those even more unhinged than him in power. And it is to those, many of them who admire on a personal level this dead monstrous man that many of these statements appeal.
I don’t think anyone here will stop supporting China of Xi over this. And I understand the relations Kissinger had with China.
But on a personal level I am glad this waste of human life died. I just wish it was 60 years earlier. Many of the South American and Asian comrades our party works with saw this man as the devil turned human and for this day I will join them in celebrating his death, however childish it may seem.
Cambodia would like a word with those of us who see this and yell “pragmatism! material reality! you’re all ultraleftists for taking issue with this!”
The man was responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS. It is a sad state of affairs when the PRC’s communist leadership is lauding him as a friend, be it genuine or merely a diplomatic ploy. Caveat, caveat, caveat, pragmatism, China’s history, Sino-Soviet split… yes, yes. Regardless. Millions.
There is a danger with internet brash who have neither power, nor the responsibility to use it for the benefit of hundreds of millions, a billion humans to exercise it who deign to lecture Xi on this. Who rashly rush to say ‘fuck him’ or as the ultras and succ-dems would do say it proves he’s not really a Marxist, a communist, a comrade.
I suppose they’d prefer he drop his pants, take a shit on a picture of Kissinger and end his video message with a middle finger as if that would be anything but self gratifying behavior. And it is the habit of many in the west to engage in self-gratifying thinking, actions, and even useless self-flagellation because power is nowhere near them. This is the risk, the siren call of ultra-leftism, the divorce of some imagined purity from reality for those so far from being able to engage in practice on the level of an in power party.
It’s natural but it needs to be tempered and controlled by reason.
Kissinger was a mass murderer but he was only so because of the system he had power in incentivized, encouraged, allowed it. I’m not saying he was a good human, he objectively was not and did nothing to try to stop the machine, rather lovingly oiling it. However he also objectively did things that were positive for China’s development from their point of view. Was in some ways more restrained and reasonable with peer powers than many of his students who unfortunately now hold sway. In his latter years he after all thought the Ukraine policy was a mistake, that Russia had real legitimate concerns about NATO encroachment that far east, and continued to act in favor of maintaining openness with China, perhaps only out of vanity because it was seen as his crowning achievement but he did so none-the-less and China would do well, does well to encourage everyone who wants that openness.
Kissinger was an important cog but he was just a cog in a machine. He didn’t seek to change its nature and was criminal of course on that count and on running millions to their deaths as a mass murderer. But in the international business of diplomacy the purview of diplomatic functions is not to engage in ruthless, religious, zealous purity testing but to do what you can with what you have. And when it comes to the stinking barrel of rotting apples that is the US trying to find a good one anywhere near the levers of power is a fool’s errand, all of them have blood on their hands, care not for the proletariat, use human beings as fodder and grist for the machine. Thus those in power in other nations reach for one less rotten in ways that matter to them. At least that’s the Chinese approach and I think we owe it to them to support them as they are still standing and succeeding while the USSR (which was much more confrontational) is not.
History after the revolution will likely judge Kissinger just one of a large handful of rotten, murderous, genocidal imperialists and that perhaps is the greatest slight we can give to him in death, to make him less of this towering power and assign him his reality as a cog. The blood stained hands that killed millions in Vietnam and Cambodia will not be put into the ground in the next month, they are the hands of the US itself and they continue to work. We must remember that for the victims of his and those of the modern State Dept planners.
All top level American executive, diplomatic, intelligence personnel are criminals, are party to genocide, ecocide, mass murder, war crimes, crimes against humanity. To that degree I don’t feel much about this dead man other than a slight pleasure he died fearing his work was unraveling. There are those even more unhinged than him in power. And it is to those, many of them who admire on a personal level this dead monstrous man that many of these statements appeal.
I don’t think anyone here will stop supporting China of Xi over this. And I understand the relations Kissinger had with China.
But on a personal level I am glad this waste of human life died. I just wish it was 60 years earlier. Many of the South American and Asian comrades our party works with saw this man as the devil turned human and for this day I will join them in celebrating his death, however childish it may seem.
I wish I could take joy, please do so in my stead comrade.
He’s definitely in the category of world would have been better off if he’d been hit by a bus at 17.
Cambodia would like a word with those of us who see this and yell “pragmatism! material reality! you’re all ultraleftists for taking issue with this!”
The man was responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS. It is a sad state of affairs when the PRC’s communist leadership is lauding him as a friend, be it genuine or merely a diplomatic ploy. Caveat, caveat, caveat, pragmatism, China’s history, Sino-Soviet split… yes, yes. Regardless. Millions.