Yep it’s total bullshit. What people are really saying is they’re too lazy to prepare foods. Stir fry is cheap. Soup is cheap. Beans (refried, chili, black bean, etc.) & rice is cheap. All healthy.
Making lentil tacos tonight. Again, filthy cheap. Stupid simple. But tons of protein, complex carbs, fiber, vitamins, and minerals.
It gets much more efficient time-wise when you meal prep. Every improvement requires “conscious effort.” we’re just accustomed to bad habits because nobody taught us better.
Edit: I was a bit harsh on the laziness accusations. People are products of their environment generally and there are fair points regarding societal pressures. The body tends to take the path of least resistance and, well, this is the outcome.
People are “lazy” because it’s takes 2-4 incomes to support a household instead of one. Everything is rushed for a reason. Convenience isn’t a luxury, it’s a necessity for many people, especially the hardest working.
The majority of healthy eating working class families are eating healthy because they have a retired grandmother or grandfather helping out cooking old school dishes etc. isolated small households with two working parents are going to feel compelled to get cheap and quick food otw home from work.
Man… My wife and I I support my mother, our 2 young kids, and my sister under a 2-income. These kids don’t go to daycare or school yet (which we plan on homeschooling) so no breaks. People definitely can make time but oftentimes have their priorities out of whack. No cooking contribution and a net-negative in terms of chores, mind you.
Yes, it’s easy to order quick food and we’ve all been there. I won’t lie and say we don’t occasionally. I completely get that. But I truly believe it’s a matter of bad habits across generations as opposed to being that confined on time. Besides, you’re going to lose all that time in less productivity / efficiency, especially when you’re sick more frequently and have to go to urgent care or hospital because of a poor diet.
Untrue. Americans get paid like crazy for the jobs they do. In Canada, the average income and CPI ratio is so much lower than in America and we have a fraction of the obesity problem.
I never liked this suggestion. Sure, dry beans and rice are cheap. When we tried to make beans, they came out tasteless and gross no matter what we tried. No matter what recipe we followed, they never tasted good. Rice is also cheap, especially when bought in bulk, but there’s only so many seasoning or sauce sauce combinations until I’m sick of eating the same thing. Even if it’s every other day, there’s no way I’m eating the same thing. We did that with overnight oats because they are cheap and easy to prepare ahead of time. We did it so much, it makes me gag now and I’ll never touch it again. On top of all that, I’m tired of cheap eating being reduced to the simplest possible foods imaginable and acting like people will eat them every or most days.
they came out tasteless and gross no matter what we tried.
You tried wrong then, buy dried beans, leave them on water overnight, change the water, put them on the pressure cooker with new water for 20-30 minutes(the bean should easily be crushed between your palate and tongue if not, add more time)
open the lid, the water must barely cover the beans(remove or add water), low the fire and start adding chopped tomatoes and onions, SALT(salt is probably the most important ingredient, start with a little bit, add until the water tastes salty but edible) thyme and turmeric, same process as the salt, not too much just enough that the water tastes good, leave in a slow fire for 5-10 minutes(more if you want the beans extra soft),
bonus: extra taste secret, chop bacon and fry it with little oil, put it in with the oil, but don’t put much, max two oil spoons in, do it when you put the tomatoes and onions.
Serve with rice, or add more water and make a soup.
Oatmeal: boil the oatmeal in water with cinnamon until it’s cooked, then wait for cooling, put in the blender with milk, add fruits, and some drops of vanilla extract. Put in refrigerator, enjoy.
acting like people will eat them every or most days.
People do eat them everyday, rice+any grain+meat+salad+etc
You know how many tasteless and even gross things that came from animals and plants humans have learned to eat? Boil it, fry it, use every seasoning available until it tastes good.
Edit: add the salt before, when you put them on the pressure cooker, not with the tomatoes and onions, that way the taste gets inside the bean when its pressure cooked.
So look for a recipe then. Chicken is cheap as hell. Pasta is cheap as hell. Rice is cheap as hell. Veggies are cheap as hell. Recipes will tell you how to cook it and make it taste good.
Taking a carrot and eating it is faster, easier and more convenient that “fast” food. It can also be thrown around in a bag all day and still taste the same.
Same with apples and…
It is really easy to simply make the decision to not eat shit. You don’t need to be an 8th degree vegan to be healthier.
Getting a child to brush their teeth (or do it for them) is also a constant effort. So what? Just let them rot? Raising children well is not easy, we know that.
This is a weird argument. My kids eat carrots. I cut up the baby ones. They also eat chicken nuggets, hot dogs, corn dogs, grapes, apples, butter pasta, and a variety of foods. Simply saying eat a raw vegetable doesn’t really fix the issue.
You’re getting down voted because you’re suggesting eating the occasional raw fruit and veggie and writing like that’s a replacement for eating fast food. Maybe if you provided a recipe or a meal idea people would be more receptive.
While I did not write that, yes, people seem to think that. Replacing part of what we eat with something healthy is easy and cheap. Not a solution to everything. Not a complete vegan lifestyle.
Anyway, a recipe etc. is not going to change people. This is a more fundamental issue.
It’s so expensive and time consuming to eat healthy, even more expensive if you want quality ingredients.
Meanwhile, junk food is quick, cheap, and tastes “better” because they just pack it full of sugar or have no regard for nutrition.
There’s really little incentive to eat healthy unless you’re making a conscious decision to be healthier.
Beans and rice is cheap as hell, easy to make, and it’ll last for a week or two depending on storage options.
I’m really tired of the expensive angle on healthy eating. It literally takes 20 minutes of research to get around that issue.
Yep it’s total bullshit. What people are really saying is they’re too lazy to prepare foods. Stir fry is cheap. Soup is cheap. Beans (refried, chili, black bean, etc.) & rice is cheap. All healthy.
Making lentil tacos tonight. Again, filthy cheap. Stupid simple. But tons of protein, complex carbs, fiber, vitamins, and minerals.
It gets much more efficient time-wise when you meal prep. Every improvement requires “conscious effort.” we’re just accustomed to bad habits because nobody taught us better.
Edit: I was a bit harsh on the laziness accusations. People are products of their environment generally and there are fair points regarding societal pressures. The body tends to take the path of least resistance and, well, this is the outcome.
People are “lazy” because it’s takes 2-4 incomes to support a household instead of one. Everything is rushed for a reason. Convenience isn’t a luxury, it’s a necessity for many people, especially the hardest working.
The majority of healthy eating working class families are eating healthy because they have a retired grandmother or grandfather helping out cooking old school dishes etc. isolated small households with two working parents are going to feel compelled to get cheap and quick food otw home from work.
Man… My wife and I I support my mother, our 2 young kids, and my sister under a 2-income. These kids don’t go to daycare or school yet (which we plan on homeschooling) so no breaks. People definitely can make time but oftentimes have their priorities out of whack. No cooking contribution and a net-negative in terms of chores, mind you.
Yes, it’s easy to order quick food and we’ve all been there. I won’t lie and say we don’t occasionally. I completely get that. But I truly believe it’s a matter of bad habits across generations as opposed to being that confined on time. Besides, you’re going to lose all that time in less productivity / efficiency, especially when you’re sick more frequently and have to go to urgent care or hospital because of a poor diet.
Untrue. Americans get paid like crazy for the jobs they do. In Canada, the average income and CPI ratio is so much lower than in America and we have a fraction of the obesity problem.
I never liked this suggestion. Sure, dry beans and rice are cheap. When we tried to make beans, they came out tasteless and gross no matter what we tried. No matter what recipe we followed, they never tasted good. Rice is also cheap, especially when bought in bulk, but there’s only so many seasoning or sauce sauce combinations until I’m sick of eating the same thing. Even if it’s every other day, there’s no way I’m eating the same thing. We did that with overnight oats because they are cheap and easy to prepare ahead of time. We did it so much, it makes me gag now and I’ll never touch it again. On top of all that, I’m tired of cheap eating being reduced to the simplest possible foods imaginable and acting like people will eat them every or most days.
You tried wrong then, buy dried beans, leave them on water overnight, change the water, put them on the pressure cooker with new water for 20-30 minutes(the bean should easily be crushed between your palate and tongue if not, add more time)
open the lid, the water must barely cover the beans(remove or add water), low the fire and start adding chopped tomatoes and onions, SALT(salt is probably the most important ingredient, start with a little bit, add until the water tastes salty but edible) thyme and turmeric, same process as the salt, not too much just enough that the water tastes good, leave in a slow fire for 5-10 minutes(more if you want the beans extra soft),
bonus: extra taste secret, chop bacon and fry it with little oil, put it in with the oil, but don’t put much, max two oil spoons in, do it when you put the tomatoes and onions.
Serve with rice, or add more water and make a soup.
Oatmeal: boil the oatmeal in water with cinnamon until it’s cooked, then wait for cooling, put in the blender with milk, add fruits, and some drops of vanilla extract. Put in refrigerator, enjoy.
People do eat them everyday, rice+any grain+meat+salad+etc
You know how many tasteless and even gross things that came from animals and plants humans have learned to eat? Boil it, fry it, use every seasoning available until it tastes good.
Edit: add the salt before, when you put them on the pressure cooker, not with the tomatoes and onions, that way the taste gets inside the bean when its pressure cooked.
So look for a recipe then. Chicken is cheap as hell. Pasta is cheap as hell. Rice is cheap as hell. Veggies are cheap as hell. Recipes will tell you how to cook it and make it taste good.
Chicken cheap as hell? Where tf you shoppin at?
There’s nothing more expensive and time consuming than being laid up in the hospital with cancer/heart disease/diabetes.
Missing the point that, you can’t convince kids with that argument.
Taking a carrot and eating it is faster, easier and more convenient that “fast” food. It can also be thrown around in a bag all day and still taste the same. Same with apples and…
It is really easy to simply make the decision to not eat shit. You don’t need to be an 8th degree vegan to be healthier.
Okay, good luck trying to convince a child of that, or someone who’s in the junk food loop.
Just eating raw carrots also sounds like a miserable experience, you need to make healthy meals.
Getting a child to brush their teeth (or do it for them) is also a constant effort. So what? Just let them rot? Raising children well is not easy, we know that.
So we agree, it’s not easy…
I don’t know if you’ve somehow read my original comment as pro junk food, but it’s not.
This is a weird argument. My kids eat carrots. I cut up the baby ones. They also eat chicken nuggets, hot dogs, corn dogs, grapes, apples, butter pasta, and a variety of foods. Simply saying eat a raw vegetable doesn’t really fix the issue.
It is a super easy and first step to a more healthy diet. Not more and not less.
The part about “oh no it is so hard with children” was brought up by someone else.
So are we not allowed to change policies to make it easier?
Nice straw man you got there.
Oh yeah, instead of this full meal I’ll just eat a carrot.
This is literally what I do. Of course, I am a bunny rabbit so maybe it’s different for people idk.
It’s so easy you guys 💁
Also: Exercising more? That’s easy too-- Instead of not doing exercise, simply do exercise instead.
Saving money, same thing-- Simply don’t spend it all and you’re good.
Okay, we’re on fire with these life-changing insights-- What pervasive personal responsibility problem should we do next?
The person argues that fast food is somehow cheaper. To me, it is far more expensive.
They say eating healthy is complicated. It is far easier.
I never said that switching to vegan is easy. But eating a carrot here and there, an apple, bla… is super easy and cheap.
You’re getting down voted because you’re suggesting eating the occasional raw fruit and veggie and writing like that’s a replacement for eating fast food. Maybe if you provided a recipe or a meal idea people would be more receptive.
While I did not write that, yes, people seem to think that. Replacing part of what we eat with something healthy is easy and cheap. Not a solution to everything. Not a complete vegan lifestyle.
Anyway, a recipe etc. is not going to change people. This is a more fundamental issue.
I absolutely detest carrots.
Raw carrots are tough but I make a carrot apple shake with some cinnamon 'n shit and it’s delicious. Just Google. Super easy.