• Jonny@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    I don’t really agree with the abusive relationship analogy. Things only change if there are people there who want it to change. While I understand and sympathise with the desire to leave, I have the utmost respect for those who choose to stay and try to make/ be the change needed.

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      7 months ago

      A lot of people have stayed in abusive relationships for that reason: “They can change! I can change them.” Meanwhile the state is rapidly moving backwards. This is like being dragged behind the abuser’s truck and not wanting to cut the rope.

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        7 months ago

        A lot of people stay in abusive relationships because they don’t have a realistic opportunity to leave. A lot of people in abusive states like Texas stay because they don’t have a realistic opportunity to leave.

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        7 months ago

        Yes, that would be the part that doesn’t work. Ideologies do not remained contained, they spread. And countries and states regularly change, all the time.

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        7 months ago

        Which is why I don’t agree with the analogy. Because that is not the solution when it comes to political ideologies.

        History is full of terrible ideologies. Things like women’s right to vote, and segregation. If people who disagreed and who had the means to leave all did, these likely would still be laws in the US.

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            7 months ago

            What makes you say that? Texas is narrowly red, and the rural vote is aging out, while the urban vote is growing. This has been pulling to the left and relatively quickly. If everyone they oppress packs up and leaves then the right wins.

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      7 months ago

      But enough taxpayers leaving can have a real effect. Enough people leave, the government notices and has to ask ‘why?’

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        Enough people leave an the rest will strengthen their majority. No politician is going to care unless it costs them power.