Curious as to how long after learning of TST did it take you to call yourself a Satanist. Immediate? Gradual? Thanks.

  • minnieo@kbin.socialOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    11 months ago

    if it were to ever get to a point where the core values are betrayed, i’d simply leave. this isn’t christianity, i’m not going to watch figureheads rape children and stick around. and anyway, with TST, there is a central guiding council for the many dozens of congregations around the world to make sure they’re doing good things and aligning with the right message, there is NO central authority. there is hardly leadership roles. there is no pope, there is no idols.

    TST is defining what I am, atheism defines what i am not. I am not a believer in the superstitious or any gods. I am a empathetic person who believes in justice, bodily autonomy, acceptance, and equality for all. TST is that to me, and if it ever weren’t that, than I simply wouldnt be a member. but no one person defined what it is, there isn’t a reality where it is “infiltrated” and suddenly the tenets are changed to evil things. if there’s an asshole who joins, they’re removed. there was one sector leader who began to get extreme and call for hostility and violence, they were fired, unlike priests who rape children and are protected.

    it’s 5 am and i just woke up so i hope these rambles make sense lol

    • platypus_plumba@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      I guess the point is that by joining, you are giving power to something that can be potentially harmful over time.

      I don’t know, I prefer a world without religions, even if they seem to have their heart in the right place. Once these groups reach certain relevance and power, corruption starts to sip into them.

      So people join and give power to a structure without knowing the consequences. I don’t know, I get that joining can bring good, but at the same point it is concerning because it is yet another religion that will probably get corrupted over time.

      • minnieo@kbin.socialOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        literally anything can be harmful over time. if we want change to happen, if we want christianity out of public school and the government, if we want secularism, if we want justice, we have to WORK TOGETHER. why are they so powerful? conservatives and christians? because they have worked together to force their ideaology into everyone else. myself alone as an activist won’t change anything, thousands with similar values working together can and HAVE. it’s not even about religion, it’s about community striving toward a goal

          • minnieo@kbin.socialOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            11 months ago

            religion has consistently always been the strongest joining force on the planet. look at what they have done, ruled, created, changed. the point of Satanism is to get that same togetherness but for positive changes like secularism, rejecting the current authority. if you can’t see the point, that’s fine, you don’t have to like or accept it, but the point is obvious. i don’t see why it even matters that it is a religion, it’s officially a religion to put it on a similar ground as other religions so that changes can be made. a simple club called Satanism is not going to do near as much, it won’t have any legal basis, no one will listen or care.

            the moment you find any joining force that is 1. more powerful than religion and 2. will be taken seriously, do let me know

            • platypus_plumba@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              11 months ago

              Those 2 points are exactly the problem with using religion as a tool. People take it way too seriously and it has more power than it should.

              Personally, I’d never use religion as a tool, I’d never subscribe to a religion and I keep religions as far away as possible.

              Nothing good can come from a group with so many legal exemptions.