• fer0n@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    That question keeps coming up and I’m pretty sure the answer is no. There are other native apps out there, voyager is and will most likely remain a web app.

    It’s also not like you can flip a switch and suddenly it’s native. You’d have to rewrite everything from scratch, so there isn’t really a “we already got this far, let’s make it native” happening here.

    I do, however, understand why people keep asking for it. There are some aspects to web apps that just feel a bit off, but I think voyager is doing an amazing job at being a web app.

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      That’s not completely true, with framworks like Cordova you can reuse the JS code for the native app. The thing is, there’s no benefit whatsoever.

      Personally I think it’s good that it’s a PWA. It’s the first PWA I use regularly on my phone, I only used WhatsApp and Telegram Web on the desktop so far and this is despite me being interested in Tech. If we introduce our friends to Lemmy and show them how easy it is to install a PWA, a lot of people will understand the PWA context a bit more

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        1 year ago

        The thing is, there’s no benefit whatsoever.

        That’s not entirely true of course. A native app allows for certain interaction with the OS that is restricted when it’s a PWA.

        For example: I doubt the Voyager PWA can interact with Shortcuts on iOS/iPadOS/macOS at all in comparison to some native apps for which the developers integrated Shortcut support.

        That said, one of the reasons why I personally like Voyager is that it’s cross platform. No more ‘What platform are you using?’. One can simply refer to vger.app and be done. Would be even better if you can sign up under Voyager as well.

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          1 year ago

          There’s also a bunch of small interactions that simply don’t feel as nice (on iOS):

          • no taptic feedback
          • tap status bar to scroll to top doesn’t work
          • scrolling gets stuck occasionally
          • swipe back doesn’t always work reliably

          There’s probably more of these things, but those are some I keep stumbling across. Maybe some of these can be implemented/fixed, but probably not all.

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        1 year ago

        Okay fair point. I thought the main “web to native conversion” frameworks were wrappers like electron or things like react native that might look familiar to web devs but are still somewhat different. If it’s just a wrapper it strikes me as not really worth it, but if actually native ui comes out at the end and you don’t have to make too many changes that sounds like a decent alternative. Do you happen to know how “native” these apps can be and how much effort it is to convert them?

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      1 year ago

      I forgot it’s a PWA except every time this topic comes up. I seriously can’t tell anymore between this and apollo except config options.

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      1 year ago

      Thanks. It’s definitely one of the best web apps I have ever used.

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      It doesn’t NEED to, but some of us would prefer to have the option without the ones who prefer the other way having to be deprived of that 🤷

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        1 year ago

        Why would you need a native app? Like, what do think would be achievable in a native app that can not be done in a web app, and that you need/want?

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          1 year ago

          I already have a problem with having too many browser tabs open plus it’s easier to switch between my browser app and another app than between tabs if I want to look something up or something while reading and replying to stuff on Lemmy.

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          1 year ago

          I detailed why in my reply to SuperFola. Turns out there’s a PWA though, which’ll do just fine for my purposes lol

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        1 year ago

        Its written as a website really, the only way that would work is to make a wrapper for it, and it wouldn’t really change anything. It would just be an app that opened a web page.

        I guess it would help discoverability since you could put it on the App Store

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    A native app for which platform? IOS? Android? Windows? Methinks you know not what you ask.

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      1 year ago

      For me personally iOS, but I kept the question generic so it would be applicable to more than one platform.

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        There is very little incentive for the developers to invest a lot of work to end up with an app that can only be used on IOS, where currently the web app can be used on most platforms. I am sure they would far rather spend that effort on improving the current web app.

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    1 year ago

    Honestly the web app is so well made you don’t even realise it’s not native. But I get it, a native app would be more efficient on battery. You don’t have to run a full on browser in the background

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    1 year ago

    I think they are planning on making an app for iOS that runs the web app, but uses some of he extra features of native apps to its advantage.

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    1 year ago

    Voyager as PWA is as easy by just recommending m.lemmy.world and install it as PWA.

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    1 year ago

    What currently Voyager is ?

    I it a web app fake as native app ? A web browser point to only one domain, the webapp itself?