Biden’s numbers among young voters have slid during his presidency from the high margins that helped him beat Trump. Several former supporters explain why.
And you are the problem if you pretend to not understand that.
That’s a year out. We’re not at that point yet. which kind of makes YOU the problem. Biden is a deeply unpopular candidate and instead of facing that fact- and listening to the warnings being given, and at the very least addressing them- you blather on about how awful trump is.
But the whole point of primaries, which apparently i need to remind you, is to select the best candidate for a given party. you see how that works? this is a debate internal to the DNC. trump has nothing to do with this discussion, except as motivation to select the best candidate possible. Which, Biden cannot defeat trump. period. He’s now too deeply unpopular among large segments of the Dem’s base.
the core arguemnt of “this isn’t the year… next year, maybe” has been the rallying cry of moderates since I’ve been voting. You need to stop trotting that out along side the shitty candidates and start picking people who are actually… you know… popular? And let us not forget, Biden has been in government for longer than I’ve been alive. He’s a part of why things are the way they are today.
Which, Biden cannot defeat trump. period. He’s now too deeply unpopular among large segments of the Dem’s base.
Proof?
Parties almost never run primaries with an incumbent. It’s stupid as all hell to throw away a known quantity who already won.
“He’s unpopular”. There isn’t a more popular candidate. Harris has nothing to her name except VP and they’re not going to throw her away for a new VP. And primaries bring the circus: debates, new dirt dug up. You want to beat Trump? Tossing up more doubt isn’t going to do it.
incumbents who are so weak as to let people think it’s a good idea to primary them… usually don’t do so hot in the regular election. Because. you know. They’re weak. Look at Ford vs Reagan, Carter Vs Kenedy (where carter won the primary and lost to Reagan.).
H.W. vs Buchanan should be pretty useful here… H.W. won the primary, lost to Clinton. there’s a pretty clear pattern- even if the causes are less clear- of incumbents who get primaried loosing the regular election.
which, it’s pretty stupid to run somebody whose known to be not particularly popular, too. Or. You know, Biden could do what he promised, step down after his first term. And then move to support and campaign for someone whose actually not smeared with the stink currently coming of Biden.
Even Biden has admitted recently there is in fact “probably 50 democrats who can beat trump”
As for accuracy… it’s not that they’re necessarily inaccurate, it’s more a fundamentally flawed assumption on what the poll means… and who responded.
The 38% of democrats in that poll that are unhappy with Biden , are never going for trump. We know they’re probably not gen z and millennials (who aren’t home to answer calls, and aren’t.
While many- quite likely most will “fall in line” in November…. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a candidate not actually loathed by at least a 1/3 the base? Wouldn’t that be easier to win? Biden’s incumbency has more baggage than most
Yes. It is just those two. It’s always just 2 every election. And you are the problem if you pretend to not understand that.
That’s a year out. We’re not at that point yet. which kind of makes YOU the problem. Biden is a deeply unpopular candidate and instead of facing that fact- and listening to the warnings being given, and at the very least addressing them- you blather on about how awful trump is.
But the whole point of primaries, which apparently i need to remind you, is to select the best candidate for a given party. you see how that works? this is a debate internal to the DNC. trump has nothing to do with this discussion, except as motivation to select the best candidate possible. Which, Biden cannot defeat trump. period. He’s now too deeply unpopular among large segments of the Dem’s base.
the core arguemnt of “this isn’t the year… next year, maybe” has been the rallying cry of moderates since I’ve been voting. You need to stop trotting that out along side the shitty candidates and start picking people who are actually… you know… popular? And let us not forget, Biden has been in government for longer than I’ve been alive. He’s a part of why things are the way they are today.
Proof?
Parties almost never run primaries with an incumbent. It’s stupid as all hell to throw away a known quantity who already won.
“He’s unpopular”. There isn’t a more popular candidate. Harris has nothing to her name except VP and they’re not going to throw her away for a new VP. And primaries bring the circus: debates, new dirt dug up. You want to beat Trump? Tossing up more doubt isn’t going to do it.
his current approval rating is something like 30%, across the board. only 61% of democrats say they approve, and that number is sinking lower. do you really call that “popular”? keep in mind the sheer number of individuals who, in modern politics do not actually have a party- many of whom still tend to be progressive anyhow.
incumbents who are so weak as to let people think it’s a good idea to primary them… usually don’t do so hot in the regular election. Because. you know. They’re weak. Look at Ford vs Reagan, Carter Vs Kenedy (where carter won the primary and lost to Reagan.). H.W. vs Buchanan should be pretty useful here… H.W. won the primary, lost to Clinton. there’s a pretty clear pattern- even if the causes are less clear- of incumbents who get primaried loosing the regular election.
which, it’s pretty stupid to run somebody whose known to be not particularly popular, too. Or. You know, Biden could do what he promised, step down after his first term. And then move to support and campaign for someone whose actually not smeared with the stink currently coming of Biden.
You did not address their main point, which is that there simply isn’t a candidate that has a better, or even comparable, chance of winning.
Approval ratings are also notoriously inaccurate, especially for dems.
Even Biden has admitted recently there is in fact “probably 50 democrats who can beat trump”
As for accuracy… it’s not that they’re necessarily inaccurate, it’s more a fundamentally flawed assumption on what the poll means… and who responded.
The 38% of democrats in that poll that are unhappy with Biden , are never going for trump. We know they’re probably not gen z and millennials (who aren’t home to answer calls, and aren’t.
While many- quite likely most will “fall in line” in November…. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a candidate not actually loathed by at least a 1/3 the base? Wouldn’t that be easier to win? Biden’s incumbency has more baggage than most