• MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    people like you get other people killed

    Trippling down on your pigheaded ignorance to the point where you’re now projecting all your errors and flaws outward.

    Steve Jobs infamously had a treatable form of cancer, but instead of going to a doctor and doing the scientifically verified treatment he ate fruit that some nut job said would cure him and he died.

    Once again, a false dichotomy, demonstrating an inability of critical thinking and ability to differentiate shades of color.

    The only medical advice anyone should ever give is go to a doctor.

    This would apply well to YOU, because YOU clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. Yet you violated your own policy. You should have stayed quiet on this topic which you clearly know nothing about.

    And FYI, that is unfortunately not valid for everyone to abide by: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/doctors-are-not-systematically-updated-on-the-latest-literature-what-t.27/

    I know I’m not going to convince you

    Yes, you would need actual knowledge and scientific citations to do that. Something you’re clearly devoid of.

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      My stance is consistent, clear, and concise. Medical decisions should be made by doctors.

      Just so everyone reading this knows what your stance is, can you make that clear? So far I’ve heard nothing but contrarianism.

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        So far I’ve heard nothing but contrarianism.

        Projecting again. I was the one who started off by sharing information and you were the one who contradicted it.

        Just so everyone reading this knows what your stance is, can you make that clear?

        It is clear to anyone with the ability to click links and read the contents. It’s only unclear to you since you opted not to do that.

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          You’ve linked a lot of other people’s opinions, which is fine. A lot of stuff about how doctors aren’t always right, diagnoses aren’t always correct, and how antibiotics are prescribed in situations that aren’t necessary, like viral infections, which agreed, all of that happens.

          But the context you’re avoiding is your original claim.

          While antibiotic resistance gets all the attention, the damage being done to our host-native microbiomes is arguably as big a threat as climate change, as the damage compounds over generations, and once it’s gone you can’t get it back. (Apr 2019).

          It is beyond ridiculous and what started this whole thing.

          So, again, for everyone reading, my claim is that doctors should be the ones to make medical decisions. Antibiotics save lives, and to add one more, people who advocate for their disuse because humans make mistakes, should rightfully be called out.

          And since you’re such a fan of random website “sources”.

          https://jennymccarthybodycount.com/

          Never forget anti vaxxers, and anti medicine people in general, are responsible for hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths.

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            11 months ago

            It is beyond ridiculous and what started this whole thing.

            It’s not. A plethora of supporting citations were provided.

            And yet again, you continue with your false equivalency of anti-vax and anti-antibiotic.

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              Buddy, I get it. You’re campaigning against antibiotic overuse. That’s true. Antibiotics are over prescribed. I’ve never said they weren’t.

              What you need to chill on is giving people medical advice. I took a look at your post history, and this is a topic you’re clearly passionate about

              But you are not a doctor. You are not even in the medical field. It looks like you’re an IT nerd. Which is great. We need nerds

              But you espousing your opinions can hurt people. There are countless examples of people rejecting medicine that works, for essentially folk cures that do not. People die. Children are one of the most vulnerable to this, and I have personal experience with kids suffering because of people like you, campaigning against western medicine, convincing impressionable morons that alternative medicine works.

              You are not a doctor, medical researcher, or a scientist researching bacterial diseases. You are a person reading what other people write on the Internet, and fixating on the gut biome above all other things is simply the wrong way to look at this.

              Antibiotics save lives.

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                11 months ago

                What you need to chill on is giving people medical advice.

                you espousing your opinions can hurt people.

                You are not a doctor, medical researcher, or a scientist researching bacterial diseases.

                Projecting again. Also some random bold and baseless claims.

                I have personal experience with people suffering because of people like you.