On Wednesday, the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights published a report alleging that Israeli forces carried out a mass execution of civilians in Northern Gaza, separating 11 men from their families and summarily shooting them.
  • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    412·
    11 months ago

    Keep in mind the Holocaust was all Jews, and Israel here in no way represents all Jews, as much as they’d like to.

    It fits in perfectly with history unfortunately. Members of group A inflict horror on members of group B. Some time passes, and some members of group B choose to inflict horror on group C and/or group A.

    It’s all just radical subsets of the population, who would love nothing more than to represent their whole group.

    • rosymind@leminal.spaceEnglish
      26·
      11 months ago

      I would just like to point out that the Holocaust was not JUST Jews. Other people were persecuted as well (such as LGBTQ+ peeps)

      • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        11 months ago

        Disabled people and political dissidents too. But LGBTQ+ people is especially apt to point out in this day and age.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          11 months ago

          And black people.

          The Nazi campaign was mostly focused on Jews because they were the biggest and easiest to target minority but the Nazi’s killed everyone that wasn’t from “their group of people” and tried to replace that population with their own (expanding the Lebensraum)

          • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            11 months ago

            Pretty much. If you weren’t white and straight and a sycophant, you were on the chopping block. Normally women would probably be too, except they wanted that to have more Aryan babies 🤮

        • ???@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          2·
          11 months ago

          I noticed that the holocaust page on Wikipedia conveniently forgets to state the other non-Jewish victims, then I realized that the Holocaust with a capital H only includes Jewish victims according to Wikipedia itself:

          The term Holocaust is sometimes used to refer to the persecution of other groups that the Nazis targeted,[4][6] especially those targeted on a biological basis, in particular the Roma and Sinti, as well as Soviet prisoners of war and Polish and Soviet civilians.[7][8][9] All of these groups, however, were targeted for different reasons.[10] By the 1970s, the adjective Jewish was dropped as redundant and Holocaust, now capitalized, became the default term for the destruction of European Jews.[11] The Hebrew word Shoah (“catastrophic destruction”) exclusively refers to Jewish victims.[5][6][7] The perpetrators used the phrase “Final Solution” as a euphemism for their genocide of Jews.[12]

          I don’t really know what to think of this.

          Apparently some don’t like to include LGBTQ, the disabled, and non-Jews under the term “Holocaust” despite shit like this:

          “All Poles will disappear from the world,” Heinrich Himmler said, It is essential that the great German people should consider it as its major task to destroy all Poles.”

          If anyone is well versed in genocide studies and history, please enlighten us!

    • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.worldEnglish
      81·
      11 months ago

      Isreal is nothing but a continuation of the holocaust. The mass migration of jews from their nation of origin to a colony is genocide from all the European nations and America who supported and funded its creation. It was final solution part 2. Not even an original one, the nazis had the Same idea first for Madagascar

      • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        11 months ago

        That’s ahistorical and makes no sense. So, the UN created Israel to genocide the Jews?

        • lad@programming.devEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          Don’t agree with the comment you replied to, but I guess they meant “created Israel to get rid of the Jews in Europe”

            • lad@programming.devEnglish
              1·
              11 months ago

              It doesn’t hurt to add sources in any case. I know that UN created the state but I doubt anyone documented the reason for doing that especially such one