What is SDF’s opinion on pre-emptive deferation with Threads?

I know SDF Chatter hasn’t defedded with any instance, but there is a serious risk of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish if we federate with Threads.

  • i_am_somebody@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 months ago

    I choose sdf because it has typically been neutral on those regards. Let users choose whether they want to block whole instances or not. Federation is literally the word that gives meaning to fediverse, I don’t agree with the arguments who want to make the fediverse an “alternative” internet isolated from the rest.

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    11 months ago

    I’m very much drawn to the idea that users individually make the choice, but I don’t think openly embracing Threads is a good idea.

    I’d much rather prefer a Fediverse without Threads than Threads without a Fediverse.

  • ctag@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 months ago

    Erin Kissane has an excellent article on why Meta doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. Meta/Facebook has had power over social media before and displayed incredible disregard for human life, much less anything else related to healthy communities.

    To treat Threads the same as a brand new instance and federate with it is a mistake.

  • chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 months ago

    I’d rather not defederate. Why? Because the fediverse is open by default and so far we haven’t really limit-tested that philosophy. In my opinion, it is better to push the envelope sooner rather than later, if only so that we can learn from the experience.

    If it doesn’t work out, then so be it. We have the tools to fight back against culture-death – this will not be Eternal September 2.0

  • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 months ago

    I would recommend defederation. Meta has a long history of malicious information manipulation and helping drive the rot of the www.

    Beyond that, they boast a user count that is an order of magnitude greater than the entire fediverse. This sounds, like a recipe for mods burning out from trying to keep the firehose of bad actors under control. Not to mention the potential server impact of caching posts, images, etc.

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    11 months ago

    I freely admit that I don’t know that much about ActivityPub or SDF infrastructure, but the issue of server load bothers me. Threads is huge and has all of FB’s CDN behind it. The SDF crew are great, but this strikes me as a potential DDoS-level threat. Someone who knows more than me, please put my mind at ease.

    • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org
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      11 months ago

      Small or huge doesn’t matter much, it isn’t sending everything it sends what people subscribe to.