Teachers will be forced to tell parents that their child is questioning their gender even if the young person objects under new guidance for schools in England, the equalities minister has indicated.

  • MasterOBee Master/King@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Limited in scope as in limited capacity. All public therapists are. The Queue to be put onto an NHS therapist’s list is years long.

    Okay, so instead of spending 30% more per full time student than our peer countries and forcing teachers to take on the responsibilities of therapists, maybe get some more therapists?

    I also know I was in a title 1 school and we had a school counselor, which would be more appropriate to discuss than with the average teacher.

    The whole point of what I said is that I think the teachers and school system are competent enough to assess whether revealing this information could endanger a child

    And what I’ve said is I think government employees shouldn’t keep secrets about someones kid from the parents, when the parents are hiring the teachers to educate, not raise the kids.

    First off, I was never on about arresting anybody.

    Okay, CPS can’t take away kids because they think one day the kid might say something that the parents may not like and CPS considers that the parent may one day dislike it enough to not deal with it how government agents see fit. Does that make the hoops easier to jump through for you? The issue is the same - teachers should be transparent with parents of the kids. If they suspect abuse, there are legal processes for that. I don’t think it’s wise to encourage teachers to unilaterally decide they will by pass all that.

    You’re willing to let it get to the point of abuse before you help out, I’m not.

    You’re willing to let adults hired by the government, outside of parents unilaterally decide what’s best for the other kids. I’m not.

    I’ll put it this way, I’d rather have false positives in the face of defending children, than assume every parent is good and turn the other cheek to the abuse that could and would cause.

    I’ll ask you a straight up question, I hope you respond to - if your kid was showing signs of gender dysphoria at school, which has an incredibly high suicide attempt rate, and a teacher withheld that information from you, and your kid commits suicide, is there any blame on the teacher?

    In my eyes, the teacher shares probably the most responsibility of any adult, for seeing the signs and not reporting it.

    The fact that this law undermines that safeguarding duty by potentially putting teachers into a situation

    Where teachers have to be consistent and can’t unilaterally decide to withhold information from parents?

    But teachers are there to encourage students to pursue their passions, and also to create a safe environment where that can be done.

    No they aren’t. They are supposed to teach our youth the basics of our worlds understanding through objective studies like math, science, history, english. They are not meant to push the kids in any which way. And they are failing at their basic duties to the parents and kids. We spend 30% more per student than our peer countries, and getting terrible results. Once that happens, I’d be more willing to talk about teachers and kids having secret gender dysphoria sessions.