• Zarxrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
    954·
    6 months ago

    I mean, they would have started appearing in there from the first moment that someone created one and hosted it somewhere, no? So it’s already been a thing for a couple years now, I believe.

      • lurch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        246·
        6 months ago

        Well it is pretty shitty though. It needs conscousness and feelings. That crap out there is barely AI.

        • dacreator@lemmy.worldEnglish
          93·
          6 months ago

          I’m wondering if we give AI consciousness is it more likely to identify humans as a threat to the Earth and try to eliminate us or would it empathize with it’s creators? Seems risky…

          • seitanic@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
            92·
            6 months ago

            Humans are not a threat to the Earth. Do you mean that humans are a threat to the environment? That would mean that we’re a threat to ourselves. It wouldn’t make sense to destroy us to save us from ourselves.

          • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            6 months ago

            This line of thinking assumes it would prioritize Earth exclusively over humans, which is only likely if the AI is created with that specific intent.

        • Deceptichum@kbin.social
          1117·
          6 months ago

          Zero art has been stolen.

          You cannot steal a jpg.

          And protecting copyright is supporting big corporations.

          • HeartyBeast@kbin.social
            112·
            6 months ago

            And protecting copyright is supporting big corporations.

            Apart from - you know, all the photographers, designers, authors and musicians out there.

            • Deceptichum@kbin.social
              72·
              6 months ago

              You mean the ones who routinely come out saying how X corporation stole their work and they received nothing for it?

              The ones where if you try to challenge the corporations hoarding human cultural works you’ll find yourself in a legal battle you can’t afford to enter.

              The amount of times an artist “wins” in the system vs a corporation is laughable. It’s designed to protect you and I, like the rest of the legal system does (it doesn’t).

              • HeartyBeast@kbin.social
                4·
                6 months ago

                You mean the ones who routinely come out saying how X corporation stole their work and they received nothing for it?

                Yes.The ones who routinely use copyright to get some form of payment. I know several people who had their photographs reublished by the Daily Mail and subsequently got payment. It happens. It’s an imperfect system, but still one that allows small artists to make a living.

                he amount of times an artist “wins” in the system vs a corporation is laughable.

                I mean, it really isn’t. It’s the entire backbone of an industry whereby, for example a photographer or illustrator can supply woirk to a magazine on a single use license. It’s how people who supply photo libraries make a living. It’s how small bands have at least some protection.

                • Deceptichum@kbin.social
                  32·
                  6 months ago

                  The difference is, even if it worked properly I would still not be in favour of denying people freedom to use cultural works.

            • cm0002@lemmy.worldEnglish
              81·
              6 months ago

              People have been saying Copyright is BS since at least the 90s when Disney pulled their shenanigans (again) and probably even before that

            • seitanic@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
              5·
              6 months ago

              Copyright is law which is used to prevent free copying of media, while “intellectual property” is a term cooked up by corporate suits to generalize copyright, trademarks, and patents and equate them with property law. Richard Stallman wrote about this.

              It has become fashionable to toss copyright, patents, and trademarks—three separate and different entities involving three separate and different sets of laws—plus a dozen other laws into one pot and call it “intellectual property.” The distorting and confusing term did not become common by accident. Companies that gain from the confusion promoted it. The clearest way out of the confusion is to reject the term entirely.

            • cm0002@lemmy.worldEnglish
              42·
              6 months ago

              Um no, we’re defending actual open AI models, I couldn’t give 2 shits about OpenAI. They have the funding to license things, but that open source model? Trying to compete against big corporations like Microsoft and Google? They don’t.

              You’re actually advocating for the big corporations, what’s going to happen if things go the way you want is the truly open models will die off and big corporations will completely control AI from then on. Is that what you really want?

                • cm0002@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  32·
                  6 months ago

                  I fail to see what he or your comment has to do with Generative AI models, which is what we are talking about.

                  I don’t think you fully understand how Generative AIs work. The input data is used in a similar, but far more rudimentary way, to learn as humans do. The model itself contains no recognizable original data, just a bunch of numbers, math and weights in an attempt to simulate the neurons and synaptic pathways that our brains form when we learn things.

                  Yes, a carefully crafted prompt can get it to spit out a near identical copy of something it was trained on (assuming it had been trained on enough data of the target artist to begin with), but so can humans. In those cases humans have gotten in trouble when attempting to profit off it and therefore in that case justice must be served regardless of if it was AI or human that reproduced it.

                  But to use something that was publicly available on the Internet for input is fair game just as any human might look at a sampling of images to nail down a certain style. Humans are just far more efficient at it with far far less needed data

      • FaceDeer@kbin.social
        616·
        6 months ago

        Nothing like the thrill of being part of an angry mob! All the dopamine of righteous fury, none of the responsibility.