cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1800563

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/straw-poll-on-your-preferences-about-opt-in-opt-out-for-possible-data-collection/85675/2

This poll is a bit hard to understand but essentially you could vote for multiple options, the highest opt-out option is at 26%, meaning 74% of people oppose this idea.

The original proposal is at 16%, for a jarring 84% disapproval rate.

Despite overwhelming negative feedback, Red Hat is currently drafting a revised proposal.

But what about Red Hat?

This is the link to the proposal: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry#Privacy-preserving_Telemetry_for_Fedora_Workstation

These parts are all interesting and contradict some people who argue Red Hat has no hand in this issue:

Name: Michael Catanzaro Email: <mcatanzaro@redhat.com>

and

The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation usage metrics.

and

It is Fedora Legal’s obligation to ensure our data collection complies with legal requirements in the jurisdictions in which Red Hat operates

and

Occasionally, Red Hat might need to collect specific metrics to justify additional time spent on contributing to Fedora or additional investment in Fedora.

The quotes above were handpicked. There are 7 matches for “Red Hat” in the link above, not counting the email address.

  • staticlifetime@kbin.social
    1·
    1 year ago

    Let me get this straight. You’re bitching because the community voted against it, so in response they’re rewriting the proposal to better align with community feedback? Man, I swear, there are some whiny assholes abound right now.

    Everyone knows that the initial request WAS FROM RED HAT! There is no bombshell here. What is with all of this dramatic flair?

    • cleric_splash@lemmy.world
      0·
      1 year ago

      Everyone knows that the initial request WAS FROM RED HAT!

      No, no, no. “Fedora is independent” and “Red Hat has nothing to do with this” were the main arguments used by pro-Telemetry groups in any discussion threads.

      • staticlifetime@kbin.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        If some people were ill-informed and spreading that nonsense, that is on them. Not saying you are outright wrong, but I personally never saw any folks trying to make the argument. My recollection is that everyone knew this request came from Red Hat, and you could definitely easily see who submitted the proposal the entire time.

        It’s amazing that even though it’s clear there was no steamrolling of this, you are still pissed that it was simply proposed.

        We have enough real drama in the Linux community, we don’t need manufactured stuff like this.

  • cleric_splash@lemmy.world
    0·
    1 year ago

    Why is this downvoted without any comments?

    EDIT: Some Red Hat simp ain’t got any arguments so he’s “fighting” with downvotes instead LOL

    • octalfudge@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I think it’s because in the discussion threads on Fedora Discussion, this point has already been raised and a “somewhat satisfactory” answer has been given?

      Michael had been working on open source projects and Fedora since before he was a Red Hatter. They have a clause in their code of conduct that for community projects, they are allowed to go against Red Hat’s interests.

      I believe that Red Hat has been pulling funding from Fedora, and thus people in the Fedora project wants to collect additional metrics to persuade Red Hat otherwise.

      I believe that drafting a revised proposal is a normal part of the Fedora change process https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/pgm_guide/changes/, and I think they allow anyone to raise change requests, and change requests don’t mean they are a done deal. All change requests are reviewed by FESCo.

      I’m new to this, so please correct me if I’m wrong.