The United Nations’ top court opens hearings Thursday into South Africa’s allegation that Israel’s war with Hamas amounts to genocide against Palestinians, a claim that Israel strongly denies.

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
    155·
    10 months ago

    as long as Israel warns or attempts to move civilian populations away from bombing targets it’s going to be really hard to prove they are intentionally killing those civilians. Israel has done those measures the entire conflict.

    Nope. We’ve had tons of cases of them moving people to “safe areas” and then bombing them.

    • bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world
      512·
      10 months ago

      That doesn’t matter in a legal sense.

      Okay my dudes. Look. Israel thinks UN court is a kangaroo court, but they’re sending a crack team of lawyers. Why? PR. Because they know they’ll win and then they can say “we defended our actions in court and won”

      Sure, take them to court, but take them to court for things they’d actually lose.

      • treefrog@lemm.ee
        81·
        10 months ago

        How is telling civilians ‘go here for safety’ and then dropping bombs on that location not intent?

        Or are you saying it’s an intentional war crime just not genocide in particular?

        • bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world
          23·
          10 months ago

          Prove it was intentional and not a misfire, a problem with civilians accessing up to date information etc etc. Gaza is very small and very densely populated. You have to prove without a shadow of a doubt intent here. It ain’t gonna happen.

          Again, you’d be better off taking Israel to court on war crimes you can actually prove. Ones that don’t require proving this intent.

          • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf
            51·
            10 months ago

            Gaza is very small and very densely populated.

            Which is why everyone knows that you can’t carpet bomb it without genocidal consequences.

            They’ve known this for decades and still they keep doing it. Your bad faith excuses for genocide are more stale than Alexander Fleming’s bread.

            • bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world
              11·
              10 months ago

              Your bad faith excuses for genocide

              This right here shows you didn’t actually understand what I’ve been writing.

              • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf
                11·
                10 months ago

                Nope. Saying “I don’t approve of it but it’s not genocide” when it’s clearly genocide is denying and thereby excusing genocide, no matter how much you scowl at it.