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“We have issued the last package that we had withdrawn and for which we had funding,” John Kirby said. White House National Security Council strategic communications coordinator John Kirby said at a briefing Thursday that “the assistance we were providing has come to a halt.”
The White House official also said it is very important that Congress continues to approve the allocation of money to Ukraine. He stressed that Kiev needs help more urgently during the winter period.
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The headline is a bit misleading, as you can see in the 2nd paragraph of the submission text, it’s the current round of assistance that has halted, and they’re pushing for Congress to continue their support of Ukraine.
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How the hell did we go from McCarthyism to “hurting Russia is less important than hurting democrats” in this hellhole?
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It’s pretty easy for a foreign government to buy a small handful of US Congresspeople or Senators to do their bidding.
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Because McCarthyism wasn’t about being anti-Russia, it was about being anti-communist. And since Communism is generally (always?) politically left, it’s still and always has been about being reactionary conservative.
It wasn’t even about political alignment, it was about trotting out a bogeyman to scare people into reactionary voting instead of informed voting.
Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
Well there’s been about forty to fifty years between them. So… a lot?
Dark money and the southern strategy.
Once the cold war was over they needed a new enemy to vilify.
Purposely so, that site was using sources and links to RT news.
Yeah, the site is suspect. The article uses the Russian spelling “Kiev” instead of the Ukranian “Kyiv,” which is a giveaway that the site might be spreading Russian propaganda. Also:
Argentina seems to show a particularly interesting trend. The country has the region’s highest number of RT online readers, and, in 2014, it was one of the first countries in the region to allow RT to broadcast on public television. Current Argentine President Alberto Fernandez has since added Telesur, the Venezuelan television network, to his country’s basic national television service. Telesur now streams Russian propaganda and disinformation to 83% of the Argentine population. Given the reach of these outlets, it is an unlikely coincidence that 67.4% of Argentinian residents said in 2020 that they view Russia favorably.
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Argentina has a lot of Russians that go there to have their baby. Apparently the baby gets citizenship if born there. So a lot of Russian young couples go there apparently.
What does having Argentinian citizenship get you though, from a Russian’s perspective?
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And it’s not that it has halted.
It has concluded.
It being halted would mean that that which was meant to be allocated is stopped from being allocated before all of it was allocated.
I’m sure Ukraine appreciates the difference.
If Zelensky and Ukrainians actions and words are an indicator, yes, they appreciate the difference between bullshit and saying what’s what.
Have you missed them pleading for continued US support?
It’s clear that Ukraine is of “National Security Interests”. So I vote we just take a lil bit of the budget allocated for military spending and use it where it would be best served.
it’s mostly a gear refresh for our military anyway. we send them stuff we have stockpiled, then we spend the allocated money on new shit for us.
That’s exactly what the US was doing.
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I say we send volunteers from the US military directly, and all their equipment too. I’m sure we can find plenty of right wing dumbasses in the ranks to chew up. Solves three problems at once!
I say that if we’re volunteering other people’s lives we start with yours. You can’t simultaneously say that the Russian military threat is real and also that people in the military have disposable lives. That’s precisely how Republicans view the military.
That is how all militaries work though.
Funny how are government starts fucking up the war most Americans support AND fucking up the other one that most Americans don’t support.
One of those effects the transfer of capital far more than the other. The whole reason we have a navy is to police international waters for commerce.
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A Navy in general, Yes. Our Navy was specifically set up to kick pirate ass, and make the high seas safe for trade. It’s in the first paragraph of the charter. Jefferson super babby hated pirates.
To the shores of Tripoli!
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Just so we’re paying attention to our news sources,
i can post peoples world as a counter source
Take the Israel weapon donations, ship them through a sketchy ukranian subcontractor in Ukraine, “lose them” in such a way the ukraine government “aquires” them. Two problems solved.
There isn’t any funding for Israel either. The bill they’re working on now has Israel, Ukraine, and additional US border security dollars in there.
That is selling arms to Israel, doesn’t require US funding.
Israel didn’t get donations. They paid for them. If Ukraine showed up with $1B, the US would sell them weapons too.
(Ignoring that US gives Israel and Egypt billions just to not fight.)
We could send all of the people fighting the war on drugs, they’re used to achieving nothing.
Most cops would never make it through that much required training, tbh.
Still, more training than the Russians are given, and no one wants the boys in blue back, so: win/win.
I don’t think anybody should aspire to be more like the fucking Russians.
They’re only achieving nothing when you take the “war on drugs” at face value.
The USA has for-profit prisons, inmates that are functionally slave labor and an incarceration rate well beyond that of comparable countries.
Psychopathic neoliberals profit from the “war on drugs”. It’s not a byproduct of the war on drugs, it’s one of the goals.
You don’t have to politely accept it when they claim “it’s not about that”. Make them prove it by putting an end to the exploitation of prisoners and their families and investing in harm minimization strategies that actually work.
🤣😂🤣 Wait wait hol’up. You got me with “Psychopathic neoliberals”. 🤣 I gotta take a breath here, but: tell me how they’re the ones “profit from the ‘war on drugs’”. I’m all ears! Bahahaha!
Do you know what a neoliberal is or did you see there word “liberal” and assume you knew everything you needed to know?
Aw, jimmies rustled? Go touch grass, cupcake.
I already worked out you were a fucking idiot but sure, demean yourself in public if you really want to.
rip
Do they even still need it? Russia is putting on a pretty sad show.
Yes they do. Russia has far more meat to send to the grinder than Ukraine has bullets for.
That’s fucked. Some real Zapp Brannigan bullshit.
The Kurds welcome Ukraine in joining the long list of groups abandoned and left in ruins by the US after being promised support to fight their enemy as long as needed.
Biden needs to focus on committing Genocide now. He has no time for Ukrainians beating an invasion. Surely Zeloonsky understands, he unconditionally supports israel’s genocide himself.
Except this is Biden’s Whitehouse continuing to tell Congress to approve aid and the GOP blocking that. This was the last package the US could provide without further congressional action. That’s not likely as long as GOP runs the house. Biden and the Democratic party have been pretty lock step in providing aid.
what does Biden’s whitehouse do to sidestep congress when giving money to Israel, then?
It did not. It allowed Israel to make a purchase with money Israel has that Congress would have approved anyway a little faster.
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I’m gonna start a bingo card about shit Lemmings say about US politics. This exaggerated and mostly inaccurate rhetoric is really grating.
It really is wild how ignorant people are on here.
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I don’t need to be a centrist to say that. Lol
Biden has nothing to do with this, and if it were up to Biden, we would continue sending help to ukraine.
You are so far up your own ass
What a cop out. If Biden put the same effort into getting Ukraine weapons as he does for israel he could certainly find a way. He just doesn’t.
Just like how Biden can’t fix the student loans because “muh Republicans”. It’s Good cop Bad cop and you’re still falling for it.
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Hey, this is a great example of why civics should be a required class in school
What a cop out. If Biden put the same effort into getting Ukraine weapons as he does for israel he could certainly find a way. He just doesn’t.
You realize he’s President, and not King, right?
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Why did Biden choose to bypass Congress for Israel instead of Ukraine?
Probably because one is at a current stalemate, while the other one is currently fighting battles in real time so they need immediate assistance that they can’t wait on Congress for.
Such determinations are rare, but not unprecedented, when administrations see an urgent need for weapons to be delivered without waiting for lawmakers’ approval.
This comment a good example of why its important to learn and understand how our government functions.
The President is not a dictator and our government has separation of powers specifically to prevent abuses by one person.
Your understanding of government would also allow Donald Trump to do anything he wanted as well, which would clearly be a terrible outcome.
>This comment a good example of
condescension.
I do think its interesting there are multiple people in this post that basically say the same thing “why doesnt Biden just do anything he wants, he’s the President”
he should. make the supreme court stop him. make the senate remove him. once he abolishes a department, or takes the money and spends it, or whatever, there is no real recourse.
I’m not a fan of dictatorships
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Shouldn’t you wait till closer to the election to start crying about the scary migrants again? Settle down.
“Take my bullshit issue seriously”.
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No more military aid until Ukraine is willing to let the aid be properly tracked or vetted.
Insurgency and terrorist groups are goint to wind up with a lot of this equipment. See the middle east and other areas for examples.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/19/politics/us-weapons-ukraine-intelligence/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/11/politics/pentagon-tracking-weapons-ukraine-report/index.html
This is not why the aid is being withheld. Idk what kind of fallacy this is but its a pretty disgusting one.
Where did I say this is the reason why its being withheld currently by Republicans?
I posted why I don’t want to continue providing funding and supplies in the way we have been.
You posted something that doesn’t matter at all. Why don’t you post about the actual topic?
You support republicans helping Russia unless Biden caves on treating asylum seakers as animals.
I said nothing about asylum seekers nor Republicans.
Yes exactly, pure bad faith. How about we talk about the actual reason the Ukraine Aid is being held?
your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith.
The aid is being withheld so that Biden starts treating asylum seekers horrendously. You talking about something unrelated as cover for this desired horrific republican policy is not great to see on this website.
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Existential war for who? Its not for me or my neighbors. I feel for the people of Ukraine, but I don’t understand why suddenly the left is so hawkish to remain the world police. Where is your energy for every other conflict that happens?
Yes, other aid we give has logistics tracking munitions like javelins… That’s why we requested it from Ukraine.
If their situation is so dire, why are they in a position to reject basic record keeping requests?
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You’re being downvoted, but this sounds pretty fair to me.
He’s being downvoted because this is not why the aid is being withheld by republicans.
Unfortunately this instance is an echo chamber and the hive mind has already decided to blindly fund them no matter what.
Ukraine has notable corruption problems and they actively reject our requests for inventory management while also doubling down on their demands for aid.
I support Ukraine’s right to sovereignty and defense. But that doesn’t mean we must sign up for a blank check and a complete lack of basic accountability.
Why keep founding a loss war?
Ask Putin…
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The fascists will attack you? Are you saying Ukraine deserves to be invaded because they undermined Russia’s control over Ukraine?
What is it now? Almost day 700 of Putins 3 day invasion?
Pootin can claim his “L” and slink back under a rock at any time. He’s going to lose - it’s just a matter of when.
I love how we can’t get anything done about our borders from the Democrats, yet, when THEY ask for more funds for Ukraine, the Republicans are just supposed to say “sure!”
Border states are turning down billions in federal aid to try and make Democrats look bad. I guess they’re convincing some dumber people.
Do you really think there hasn’t been a single thing done about our borders?
Well the first issue is that you think there’s a problem with the border.
Spoken like a true Democrat. Sincerely, someone who lives near the border.
My guy, the border is a boogeyman issue republicans push to win elections and try to make democrats look bad. For all the bloviating they do, republicans don’t do anything about the border either.
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