Prosecutors will seek the death penalty for the white supremacist who killed 10 Black people at a Buffalo supermarket.

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    11 months ago

    If you kill the man, his suffering is limited. If you lock him away in a supermax for the rest of his long days, his suffering is a thousandfold.

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      11 months ago

      Why is there any value in making someone suffer for the sake of suffering?

      If he’s dead he’s dead. There are plenty of evil people that are dead and I don’t wish them to be alive just so they can suffer.

      That’s seems worse than killing them.

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      11 months ago

      Sure, but there’s also cost to the state to be considered.

      That said, the common methods for execution used today are surprisingly expensive.

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        11 months ago

        Isn’t it more expensive to execute someone vs a life sentence?

        We should do another penal colony. Like Venus or something.

      • Masterchief117@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Also experimental. No one wants to make the drugs used to end life so states are buying expired product and shady drugs from Indian compound pharmacies.

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          11 months ago

          Those shady indian pharmacies are one of the things keeping american pharmaceuticals from skull fucking the plebs every chance it gets. Those boys are fine in my book. That countries approach to pharmaceuticals is commendable overall.

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        11 months ago

        That said, the common methods for execution used today are surprisingly expensive.

        It doesn’t have to be.

    • VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Just make sure to place him in a cell near/with black prisoners and give him a sandwich board like one from die hard 3 with “I hate n*****” on it too.b

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        11 months ago

        A) I’m certain he’ll advertise it all on his own. Probably fall right in with a Nazi prison gang.

        B) I don’t think the prisons are intentionally stoking racial tensions. Makes things dangerous for the guards and invites attention they don’t want.

    • Moira_Mayhem@kbin.social
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      11 months ago

      The suffering should never be the point. It never gives meaningful satisfaction to the bereaved and affected and studies support this.

      It is only human and normal to burn with anger and a desire to see monsters such as this torn apart and made to suffer.

      This is part of our animal mind that views tribal justice and the dubious ‘wisdom of the crowds’ as absolute, and most of the fuckdamn reason we’ve spent so long learning how to live around millions of each other is in part giving up these outdated and unhelpful social traits.

      In the long run, from the cultural perspective, no amount of his suffering will bring his victims back, and no amount of suffering will convince him that he was morally wrong.

      So execute him, and quickly, and spend the money otherwise that would have covered his upkeep on free food for single parents.

      • Augustiner@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        You were so close! The first four paragraphs were a perfect argument against the death penalty. And then you somehow turned around to argue for it in the last one?

        The logical conclusion from your argument isn’t a quick death, it’s trying to reform offenders, no matter how heinous their crimes. If that’s not possible, keep them locked away, but treat them humanely and keep trying.