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Namibian President Hage G. Geingob blasted Germany on Saturday for defending Israel at the International Court of Justice in The Hague, pointing to the genocide Germany itself perpetrated on Namibians in the early 1900s.

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    Germany hardly criticised Israel for how it wages war. Instead Germany is still one of the few countries left calling for “humanitarian fire pauses” instead of a ceasefire. It is the German government that cracked down extensively on protests against the genocide and that threatens to deport people if they don’t pledge allegiance to Israel. It is the german public broadcasting that is simply not reporting on Israeli war crimes, and that didnt report for month on the number of Palestinians killed by Israel, while at every occasion talking about the 07. October.

    Now the German government came out harshly criticising the charge by South Africa, instead of waiting for the court to reach its decision. The aid that did go to Palestine is laughable compared to the military aid Israel receives.

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      Germany cracked down on anti-Semitism in the streets, which Germany is obligated to do and it’s also the only correct thing to do. And state-funded news is fairly neutral from what I was able to gather. Our politicians are kinda whack in all this. But they’ve been fighting each other for so long now, that nothing useful comes from them anymore. It’s almost like in the USA now.

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        No Germany cracked down on anti-Zionism.

        Even Jewish Germans got harassed by the police for protesting Israel’s crimes.

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        The police banned a jewish demonstration against violence in the middle east.-German article

        A jewish women demonstrating was arrested by the police.

        German government leadin social democrats boycott jewish Bernie Sanders becausenof Israel

        City of Bremen denies rooms to Hannah Arendt Prize jewish investigative Journalist Masha Gessen-German article

        As @Quokka said it is a crackdown on anti-zionism, not on anti-semitism. Instead the German government is happy to commit anti-semitism, by persecuting and silencing jews, who are critical of Israel.

        For further read i highly recommend this analysis on the anti-semitism officers in Germany, whose job it is to protect Germanys way of repenting for the Holocaust by blind support for Israel and to deny real antisemitism by Germanys far right and conservative political actors.

        https://jewishcurrents.org/the-strange-logic-of-germanys-antisemitism-bureaucrats

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          anti-semitism nowadays is usually expressed throught the pretext of “anti-zionism”. While I agree German authorities didn’t do a good job at managing the protetsts, there is no denial that some prostestors have expressed anti-semitic ideas during some protests

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            The claim that anti-semitism is hidden under anti-zionism is used extensively in Germany, often to muddy the water and not deal with legitimate anti-zionism on a factual basis. This is done deliberately, both instrumentalising jewish people, that might want nothing to do with Israel and attacking jewish people that voice criticism of Israel. Both dimensions of this are anti-semitic as they deny jewish people a position and voice outside of the context of Israel.

            If you read the analysis on the antisemtism officers in Germany you will see, that this is not a pattern that only came into existence with the current protests, but a systemic issue in Germany, which is deliberately caused. The article in the jewish currents was published in July, almost three month before the Hamas attacks of 07. October.

            It is true that some use anti-zionism as a platform to promote anti-semitism, but it is impossible to have a proper debate about it and differentiate these two in Germany. Also mixing them up like this prevents the possibility from identifying anti-semitism that could be prevented by honestly educating people about the differences and lines to it. But if for instance demonstrations in Germany are banned by default, students in schools are punished for bringing Palestinian flags and similiar persecutions occur, it is difficult to challenge anti-semitic prejudice like jews secretely exerting power on other countries. By blaming all anti-zionist positions to be anti-semitic, it also creates a reaction of defiance, where people feel inclined to take on anti-semitic positions, as they are labeled anti-semitic either way, even if voicing legitimate criticism of Israel.

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              The claim that anti-semitism is hidden under anti-zionism

              both is true: Anti-semitism under the pretext of anti-zionism and legitimate critizism labeled as anti-semitism. Jewish people are instrumentalized by both supporters of the Israeli governent and anti-zionists.

              but it is impossible to have a proper debate about it and differentiate these two in Germany

              not impossible, but people don’t pay attention to those who have nuance opinions. If you speak German, a good example would be this podcast by Jung und Naiv.

              By blaming all anti-zionist positions to be anti-semitic, it also creates a reaction of defiance

              I agree with that. In the same way, denying that anti-zionism and anti-semitism interconnected is equally unhelpful