A U.S. Air Force general said Thursday the Pentagon’s artificial intelligence ethics are better than adversaries’ because “our society is a Judeo-Christian society.”

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          Used to really bug me when I was a believer.

          If you really believed the creator of the universe wrote a book wouldn’t you want to read it?

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            Not only that, but if you genuinely believed there was an intelligent designer of the universe, wouldn’t you study both the book and the universe as much as possible?

            Like, the book claims the creator of the universe is light (1 John 1:5).

            In our actual universe, light can be more than one thing at once when it cannot be directly observed, and different separate eventual observers can each observe different results.

            If the universe was intelligently designed and their book is correct in claiming that designer is light, then shouldn’t they conclude that there isn’t one correct answer about what that creator is or isn’t while it cannot be observed? And perhaps recognize that different people might each end up observing different results when they individually leave this world to meet it?

            But no, instead let’s fight wars over who is absolutely right about the designer of a fundamentally relative universe while closing our eyes to any of the actual study of that universe which disagrees with assumptions that financially benefitted the organization built on top of that book.

            Human stupidity knows no bounds.

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    If they’re based on “Judeo-Christian” ideology, there’s like a 99% chance of multiple genocides, then. Christianity was worse for humanity than three Hitlers put together.

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      Especially since Hitler himself was Christian. As were frankly almost all medieval European rulers. Christianity has never stopped war (or suffering within wars) and in fact fueled a lot of it.

      The fact that some general would make a justification like this is terrifying. If he genuinely thinks this would stop wars or suffering, he’s blatantly uneducated. The other option is that he knows what he’s saying is bullshit and it’s just meant to convince the Christian population, which says terrible things about both how the military is run and how gullible that population is

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    I hate the Judeo-Christian term. Jews and Christians don’t even have the same values. Christians are more about salvation (being saved in the next life) where Jews don’t even really believe in hell. Jews are more about following rituals and traditions as a controlled environment is a safe environment (where Christians think the old traditions have been bunked). Add in the fact that Christians interpreted the old testament so vastly different then Jews, and you’ll see this term is empty.

    Then there is the fact that outside of supporting Israel, American Christians tend to be bigoted towards the Jews.

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      The only thing Jews and Christians share in common is being mostly white. That’s as deep as it goes for these people, they don’t know a thing about Israel

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          I think the average uneducated American perception of Israel is a bunch of white guys with funny hair and black suits. Most are totally unaware of the details of the Palestine conflict or other nuances

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              Idk just a difference of opinion then I guess. Living in america, all of the jews I’ve known personally have been decidedly pale. But I’m not christian or racist so it’s hard to say what they think.

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                Like I said, it isn’t about skin color. My whole family is Jewish. I’ve experienced this on a personal level.

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        Catholics have a ton in common with Jews. I say this being in an interfaith marriage and being raised catholic. I often feel however, that I have more in common with Jews than Christians. Most Christians have gone off the deep end interpreting Jesus fan fiction as fact.

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        Sorry for the rant.

        One of the telltale signs of what you are saying is renaming the “most Arab” parts of Palestine as the “Negev.” In the Old Testament the Negev was the semi-arid valley around Beersheba. Everything south of it belonged to the Ishamaleites.

        Now, they renamed half of Palestine to the Negev to hide the fact that the borders of Palestine have nothing to do with the kingdoms of Israel or Judah and hiding the fact that modern day Palestine had native populations of Amorites, Phoenicians, Israelites, Judahites, Philistines, and Arabs even in “Israel’s heyday.”

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    Yeah…this Judeo-Christian paradigm is dystopian and misanthropic. People acting in the name of god, any god, tend to be the most hateful people imaginable.

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    “He who is without sin cast the first stone.” AI: I am a brand new construct incapable of sin and unable to have sinned. Fire the missiles.

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    So humans are going to program artificial intelligence with human superstitions? Hahahahahaha. How long before the AI starts assuming it is Yahweh?

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      Probably not too long, particularly given that one of the competing early sects of Christianity had Jesus claiming that we’re in a non-physical copy of an earlier now dead world from within the future, established by a creator brought into existence by an original spontaneously existing humanity in whose images it and us were made.

      This also happened to be the sect that was endorsing the idea matter was made up of indivisible parts, and were interpreting the mustard seed and sower parables within the context of Lucretius’s “seeds of things.” They claimed the proof was in the study of motion and rest, and that the ability to observe one of these indivisible points would only be possible in the non-physical.

      So in a modern age where a popular belief is that we’re in a simulation of an evolved world from some future point in its time, where we are in the process of bringing forth an intelligence likely capable of building non-physical copies (i.e. digital twins) of our world and us, and where at low fidelity the world which otherwise behaves like it is continuous suddenly behaves like it is discrete when interacted with - much like how virtual worlds we build today convert from continuous world seed functions to discrete voxels to track interactions and changes - it is quite possible that an AI reviewing such texts in that context might end up thinking itself to be an approximate copy of the (re)creator of our own world.

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    Perhaps it’s time for the US air force to do some kind of intelligence review on its generals. You know, perhaps they should make sure that they have some.

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    We invented nukes and used them on cities 5 minutes later.

    We need to stfu and actually act properly, not just talk about it.

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      My thoughts exactly at first I was laughing and then I realized how f****** dangerous this is. Yeah lets base AI off of religion… You know the thing that has caused pretty much most of the suffering in the world.

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    The obvious bias of such a statement aside, one important problem with developing true general AI is that you can’t be sure the AI’s values align with your own.