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Well, at the moment, the other option is Trump. We all know we need better politicians in general, but are you suggesting things would be better with him?
Us Vs. Them creates a system that never improves.
3rd party and end the MIC
I hope that works out.
I fundamentally draw the line at voting for any candidate that funds genocide like joe. The two party system is broken.
The two party system is definitely broken. So, you’ll be voting for whom this year? None?
I’m not sure who yet, but I will be voting for a third-party candidate.
I hope that works out for all of us.
The other option is whoever we want. Wild how voting works.
Problem is absent major reforms in every state, that’s not how voting works. Third parties playing spoilers in the first-past-the-post system has been documented and evidenced many times. Whichever bloc has greater unity or no appealing 3rd party candidates will win. So you could end up with Trump being elected with 35% for Biden, 25% for West, and 40% for Trump. Run-off or ranked choice could fix that but we don’t have that.
Ive got unity with the progressive candidate. Who also endorses that ranked choice we both want. Biden and Trump represent a conservative bloc.
That would be great but voting for them this round isn’t a practical choice. We have to somehow get voting reforms then support the candidates we actually prefer. That would start at a local/state level.
Right, this round. Next round for sure.
Before there is comprehensive voting reform it won’t work at all. It’s more likely to get whatever candidate you least support elected.
everyone’s waiting for voting reform to just happen for them. For the folks being elected with the current system that favors them to adopt it out of the goodness of their hearts.
Chicken and egg problem.
You can not get voter reform with a Democrat or Republican. They will not support legislation that make their own Party less powerful.
And then the country would collapse. Do you actually think America would survive that?
How would the country collapse? Because Trump got elected and ruined it the rest of the way, or because the left/social liberal/Democrat vote was split between the D candidate and a 3rd party, like people keep suggesting we should do? Not sure what you mean.
Has anyone in this thread even done that? I know I haven’t. I haven’t told anyone how to vote.
The largest protests in American history happened under Trump. If he came back into power despite everything with such a small plurality, the citizenry would become ungovernable.
I’ll just ignore the first part since you’ve obviously spent half the thread condemning Biden.
Anyway, so people should have been out there going wild protesting Al Gore and Hillary Clinton losing the popular vote, I guess. However, that’s the way the system works, as bad as it is. I’m sure some people would protest but my example (which isn’t even realistic since it ignores the electoral college) would be interpreted as Trump winning by 5%.
This is why I hate liberals. We are not allowed to condemn the Blue Savior, he’s making America great again, if you’re against us you’re with the enemy, etc. You are in a cult. There is literally nothing Biden can do that you would criticize.
Al Gore betrayed the country by not fighting the election that was stolen by Bush. Fuck him and the weak liberals that let it happen.
And losing the popular vote by 10%
Considering the fact that he lost the popular vote the first time and has since become even more unpopular and divisive, and considering the fact that he actually might be a convicted criminal by the election, I think things would become extremely violent. You’re overlooking how easily America could destabilize - we’re already having some fucked up standoff between states from the border showdown. How much worse will it be in 10 months?
Okay, sure: Biden was shitty on the train worker labor union. Biden should tell Israel to wrap it up, stuff it and they have enough weapons already. Oh shit, I just got kicked out of my ‘cult’.
Trump ALREADY lost the popular vote by 10% in real life. He actually won with 77,000 votes in 3 states and somehow this amazing revolution you’re envisioning didn’t materialize.
Wild how voting doesn’t guarantee your preferred winner of the lot will actually win. We need ranked voting.
That applies to literally every candidate. Everyone gets one vote’s worth of a say. If a lot of people dont want Trump or Biden, they dont have to win. But that pesky self fulfilling prophecy.
You want ranked choice, vote for the candidate that endorses it. I dont know how you ever expect it to happen otherwise.
Ahh yes. Eggs and chickens.
I have not told anyone how to vote in this thread. Y’all just crawled up my ass about it because I blasphemed.
If you choose to vote for Biden despite hating him, I understand. But don’t try to silence criticism.
I’m not concerned with them. I’m engaging in conversation with you. Are you able to answer the question?
I literally did answer the question: I have not told anyone how to vote. That necessarily means I’m not suggesting Trump is better. 🙄
I’m not asking what you’re telling people. I’m asking what you think
I don’t think Trump is better either, what the fuck?
What is your problem? Stop crawling up my ass.
I’m a little confused why you’re being so aggressive when I’m just asking clarifying questions about your comment.
Don’t you that think maybe Biden, who I’m not saying is a great guy, took office during a free fall and can’t be expected to take on the full blame for what was already bound to hit the ground?
yeah yeah you’re Just Asking Questions 🙄
I think if Biden wants to take credit for the economy by inventing the term Bidenomics, then he gets to take credit for the failures too. Remember, his team were the ones that pushed Bidenomics when they wanted to pretend the economy was in good shape.
What I want is for Biden to acknowledge the problems that actually exist instead of trying to gaslight us into thinking everything is fine.
Adding “omics” in reference to the economy is not something that started with Biden.
So again I’ll ask, do you think that we would be in a better state today if Trump had won in 2020? I’m not asking you to endorse either party.