This is ahistorical. Leftists have always fought fascists, when revealed to be fascists. Typically it’s the liberals and social democrats who side with fascists, like what happened in Nazi Germany.
Aye. Meanwhile, the SPD fought the SA in street fights and invented the three arrows symbol.
Say what you will about the effectiveness of reformism (or rather, its near-total absence), but the succdems at least resisted. The Stalinists, meanwhile, called them “social fascists” and cooperated with actual fascists to fight against them.
When revealed is doing a lot of heavy lifting there and even then that is not entirely accurate to the reality of the situation. There isn’t a unified response just the people likely to still be fighting against authoritarianism at any point are likely going to be left leaning in the spectrum by nature of their dissatisfaction of the current system. And even then the fighting force is generally not the leftists but the allies on other parts of the spectrum that they gain.
It’s not like an Isolationist country was super excited to fight against fascism, just seemed like the right path forward with coaxing.
The issue is that leftism is incompatible with fascism. Not that leftists can’t be bad or evil, they can, but leftism itself cannot coexist with fascism. However, liberalism leads to fascism eventually, and social Democracy is still fundamentally a Capitalist ideology, and is just as easy to corrupt into fascism as shown in Nazi Germany.
I’m aware. Stalinism has more in common with Fascism than either has with capitalism with a well supported social safety net. To say “Well, leftism can’t devolve into Fascism but capitalism can!” is odd semantics because leftism can and obviously has repeatedly fallen into the authoritarian trap.
I mean,
dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation.
This is ahistorical. Leftists have always fought fascists, when revealed to be fascists. Typically it’s the liberals and social democrats who side with fascists, like what happened in Nazi Germany.
Go look up the phrase “After Hitler, our turn!” And report back with your learnings from actual history.
Right??? SpongeBob below, that’s some hard revisionism to say that was just them liberals and not us left leaning liberals that did that!
Aye. Meanwhile, the SPD fought the SA in street fights and invented the three arrows symbol.
Say what you will about the effectiveness of reformism (or rather, its near-total absence), but the succdems at least resisted. The Stalinists, meanwhile, called them “social fascists” and cooperated with actual fascists to fight against them.
They said leftists, not Stalinists
When revealed is doing a lot of heavy lifting there and even then that is not entirely accurate to the reality of the situation. There isn’t a unified response just the people likely to still be fighting against authoritarianism at any point are likely going to be left leaning in the spectrum by nature of their dissatisfaction of the current system. And even then the fighting force is generally not the leftists but the allies on other parts of the spectrum that they gain.
It’s not like an Isolationist country was super excited to fight against fascism, just seemed like the right path forward with coaxing.
The issue is that leftism is incompatible with fascism. Not that leftists can’t be bad or evil, they can, but leftism itself cannot coexist with fascism. However, liberalism leads to fascism eventually, and social Democracy is still fundamentally a Capitalist ideology, and is just as easy to corrupt into fascism as shown in Nazi Germany.
As compared to how hard it is to corrupt leftism into Stalinism?
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I’m aware. Stalinism has more in common with Fascism than either has with capitalism with a well supported social safety net. To say “Well, leftism can’t devolve into Fascism but capitalism can!” is odd semantics because leftism can and obviously has repeatedly fallen into the authoritarian trap.
I mean,
Hitler or Stalin?
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