Election campaign no excuse for ‘playing with the security of the alliance,’ Poland’s defence minister says

  • lulztard@feddit.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    32
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    I genuinely hope that Trump wins the presidency. Nothing will nuke the US hegemony from orbit faster than not providing the protection the nations within your hegemony pay your industry for. Why allow the US to suck you dry if they don’t do their part? The EU is infested with parasites and corruption, it’ll never manage to stand on its own legs until those US agents get flushed out by the EU need to fend for itself and build its own infrastructure and army.

    With the US severely weakened it won’t be able to coup another nation every five years, it won’t be able to keep installing dictators and tyrants that oppress their people, kill their rivals and sell out their nation to US interests in exchange of power, which will greatly stabilize the world. South America, middle east, all the US’ doing. Terrorist shithole nation for over a hundred years and it is slowly coming to an end.

    Yes there is the risk that China will step up and be just as evil, but there is also the chance for the EU to step up and be less of a dystopian nightmare. Change that’ll get a chance to grow into something better once Trump shoots the US in the head.

    • RubberDuck@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      11 months ago

      What a stupid take.

      • consequences be damned.
      • some of you may die but that’s a risk I’m willing to take.

      I’m just glad people with these kinds of thoughts are probably not even old enough to vote.

      • gian @lemmy.grys.it
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        He has a point though, EU (and NATO) need to become less dependant on the US.

        It is probably true that this is a process that must take place in its own time and not suddenly, but EU need to do it.

        • RubberDuck@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          11 months ago

          It’s probably something a sensible adult in their orbit said at some point. But I refuse to distill any sensible thing form that drivvel.

    • Fudoshin ️🏳️‍🌈
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      11 months ago

      I disagree with most of what you said* but your general point that America is a danger to the world via it’s unchecked aggression is borne out by numerous polls around the world.

      When the question: Who is the greatest threat to world peace - most country’s people (even allies) say “America”. They certainly did before the Russian invasion of Ukraine!

      So I get where you’re coming from BUT…I wouldn’t wish Trump on the Yanks and as much as I dislike US hegemony I’m sure there’s better ways of going forward than what you propose.

      *Yet I upvoted you because you’re point is interesting!

      • lulztard@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        You sound sane enough to engage with a topic. Wanna have an Internet conversation?

        Numerous polls around the world name the US as te most hated, most dangerous nation because it is. Google Banana Republic and report back, tell me what you think. The US has been doing that for over a hundred years. Tell me three nations the US couped, tell me what you think about that. Tell me two regions they destabilized. I’m actually not joking, each of those questions are like 10 - 30 seconds of Internet search and I’m curious if any of it changes your opinion on the US being called evil and dangerious only being the result of polls instead the polls being the result of the US being evil and dangerous.

        Just because Russia is a terrorist shithole doesn’t mean the US can’t be the bigger and worse terrorist shithole. I agree that there are better ways of getting rid of that evil shithole, for example by its retard population voting for a government that stops their war machine. Because, you know, at least Americans don’t have to be afraid to get vanished if they protest, in contrary to people in China, Nazi Germany, Russia. But we’re not living in a world that would allow for a better way to exist. IMHO, at least. The US collapsing under their own degeneracy is the best solution for the rest of the world. Trump would be the perfect candidate.

    • makeasnek@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      Nothing will collapse democracies and fuel accelerationist movements from the left or right like the collapse of what has historically been the linchpin of global democracy. “See, they couldn’t make democracy work, we should just elect the autocrat our side agrees with!”.

      The movement away from the US Dollar as the global reserve currency can do much of the anti-imperialist work you’re suggesting without collapsing a country with 300 million people and potentially collapsing the global economy with it. That’s a transition that can happen gradually and gracefully. The Euro or Bitcoin is probably best suited to be this replacement. Nobody trusts the Yuan, not even the BRICS nations, and there’s really no real contenders after that. The problem with the Euro is that BRICS nations don’t want to use it. Countries with a history of being colonized by Europeans aren’t going to be to excited about it either. Many African nations are still under a form of currency imperialism via France. All their leaders who try to get out from under it somehow… end up without a beating heart.

      You may laugh at Bitcoin as a suggestion, but it has had a stable fiscal policy and faithfully relayed transactions for 15 years, 24/7, no bank holidays, not a single hour of downtime, not a single hack. It has a market cap of 850 billion, that’s larger than Swedens GDP and places it in the top 25 countries by GDP. It doesn’t require rolling out a state-run treasury or stable banking infrastructure, just wireless internet.

      And it’s politically neutral when it comes to countries. No country can control it, so they all can trust it. And it does this for < 1% of global energy usage and 100-1000x lower fees than credit cards or bank wires. You can send transactions in under a second for pennies in fees with Bitcoin lightning. There’s a reason small countries with little to lose are suddenly banking on Bitcoin, they don’t want to lose autonomy by relying on the US dollar. Ecuador and Argentina are controversial, but one can see the sense in their strategy. Argentina especially with how many times they have been fucked over by government-run banks and unstable currency. Bitcoin offers a way out of the debt-restructuring trap so many other small countries have fallen into with the world bank, IMF, etc.

      • JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        that is a terrible idea. Even ignoring the energy use and that market cap is a bad metric for value, especially in a market with as much wash trading and painting the tape and just plain fraud as the bitcoin ecosystem.

        The code base is under the control of around 5-10 people, the mining is under the control of 2-5 mining pools, with the largest two being the result of the largest pool splitting because it was too big and that’s not good optics, the majority of those pols and mining is in China. It has not reliably relayed transactions, being severely congested for weeks on end several times in its history. It does not have a “stable fiscal policy”, it has no fiscal policy. It is limited to 7-10 transactions/second (and no, lightning does not solve this, as you still need a regular transaction to settle, onboarding something the size of the EU would take on the order of 50 years until everyone has their channel, and then another 50 years if everyone were to settle their channels, along with many others fundamental problems with lightning), completely laughable if you want to use it as the backbone of the international financial system.

        You want there to be a proper fiscal policy with knobs that can be turned, so you can deal with crisis/extraordinary events. For instance having your country’s currency tied to the dollar is horrible for managing that country’s economics and only done if there is no other alternative, using bitcoin as the global reserve would be that, just on crack and there’s no reason to do it unless you’re incredibly desperate, in which case the dollar is still a safer bet. You’d hand over control of your financial system to a shadow group of unelected people, so you lose even more autonomy. You want there to be checks and things like sanctions, to prevent fraud, theft and, in the case of sanctions, to have a political tool that is harsh but less so than an actual war. These things are features, not bugs. You can debate whether it’s good that the US is in control of a lot of these tools, but proposing to get rid of these tools altogether (which moving to bitcoin would do) would be even worse. There is no country that has gotten itself out of debt using bitcoin, so saying it is a solution is disingenuous at best.

        These are just the same old bitcoin talking points that make it sound like it could actually work but do not hold up to the tiniest amount of scrutiny. And the end goal is always to just make the price go up so the gambling pays off, not any use case or making the world better or anything.

      • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        If the global reserve currency changing has tremendous risks of collapse to the US.

        Most commodities are traded in US-dollars. This gives the US economy tremendous stability, as the stability get intertwined with the global economy as well as allowing the US to influence global ressource prices through increasing or decreasing the currency amount.

        If these aspects stop working when a different currency replaces the US-dollar, it will expose the US economies weakenesses and force it to stand on its own much more.

        We also saw the US to fiercly enforce the dollar as global oil currency. When Gaddafi suggested to the Arab league to establish their own currency and trade oil exclusively in that, he fell out of favor with the US again. Iran wanting to trade oil in other currencies is a strong sting to the US.

      • lulztard@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        I generally agree with your post, though “historically been the linchpin of global democracy” boggles my mind and almost had me throw your text on the same pile with other posts like rElEvAnT uSeRnAmE. I wonder how you can uphold an opinion as easily disproven than that. How many leaders does a nation have to coup before you a forced to accept the fact that said nation has zero interest in democracy? Genuinely flabbergasting.